Wel hun, you sure are doing it right, lemme tell you that XD <3. But yes!!! Exactlyyyy. Goodness you’re so good at this XD. But yes fs. I mean really, when you look at it, they’re just kids. And I think the oath was the grand culmination of their decision. When Fëanor started to deteriorate, so did the family, and I think their fierce loyalty to each other and to their house was what was holding them together (or at least that was part of it). And then here goes Fëanor swearing this bloody oath in the face of all his rage and grief and what could they do but blindly follow, really? I don’t think any of the other elves wanted to see that. Because in the end, it was really just a silly handful of stanzas that brought them all their grief and ruin, especially those who were in the kinslayings. And well, they probably deemed their suffering too great to see that it all came down to that one moment of the oath; they wanted someone to blame, they wanted the feanorians to be bloodthirsty and callous because you can’t really fathom that they’re victims in their own way too. It’s such a tragic concept, where the lines between good and evil are blurred so and goodness, what fun it is to play around in ;). Well I hope I made at least a little sense haha. But yeah, I definitely can’t imagine that they would remain stuck in the void for all eternity. I read the fall of Gondolin recently and I believe a version was mentioned in which they were rembodied at Dagor Dagorath and Fëanor broke the Silmarils to restore the two trees or something of that gist and I’ll just cling to things like those and pretend they’re canon XD.
Yep, Fëanor going down the slippery slope with his wariness and resentment towards Indis' line and the Silmarils was definitely what had the whole family falling apart imo. I picture that they were a pretty cohesive, fairly happy, and unified family before that; it really must have been hard on the seven sons, to watch their parents' marriage start crumbling and the atmosphere in their family just getting more and more strained. Not to mention Maedhros and Celegorm at least were pretty close with members of Fingolfin's family - Fingon and Aredhel respectively - so the increasing divide between their dad and their uncle couldn't have been easy to deal with. I imagine most of them were sufficiently matured by the time they swore the Oath (Curufin had a whole child, after all, and he, Maglor, and Caranthir were also married), but we're all still kids to a degree in front of our parents. Of course they'd want to help their dad, of course they'd be angry and they wouldn't be thinking straight, especially after their grandfather's just been murdered. It was really, like you said, a "blind" decision, because they didn't know what they were getting into.
Agree on the part where the other elves were unwilling to see that the Fëanorians' situation wasn't exactly great, either. Like, they're not evil or intrinsically malicious in the way I imagine a lot of the other elves see them as; they did horrible things, but their circumstances pushed them to that point. They're still responsible for their own actions, and responsible for the decisions that they made in their situation, but those actions weren't solely a result of them being bad people.
It's funny how you mention other elves also being unwilling to see the Fëanorians as anything other than bloodthirsty and callous, because I've got another fic that's centered around a Celegorm/Dior relationship, and most of the time I'm writing it from Dior's perspective. It's really interesting for me to try to imagine how Dior - a stranger to the Fëanorians who has probably grown up hearing about their more questionable actions regarding his family - at first thinks of them as, to put it mildly, not so savory people. He deliberately puts a lot more weight on their bad actions than he does their good (I mean, the Fëanorians did fight hard against Morgoth and, barring the First Kinslaying, only began taking really dark action after the Noldor's situation against Morgoth got bad, which I imagine had something to do with their increasing desperation).
And Dior does that because it's hard for him to reconcile the fact that the same folks who participated in the Kinslaying of Alqualondë, intentionally turned their cousin's kingdom against him (à la Celegorm and Curufin), tried to force his mother to marry one of them (we can thank same disaster duo...), and tried to kill his father (again it's those two, they're such a complete mess and I love them) - that these same people were once close with their cousins, that they love their parents as much as he loves his, that they grieve for those they care about and are willing to die for each other... and just generally that they're not monstrous or completely uncaring. So I think it's really a situation like that for all the other elves and how they regard the Fëanorians. Again, I can't bring myself to blame either side - both of them had understandable reasons - and that's the whole beauty of the First Age.
Yes yes yes!!! Exactly. Also considering that the Silmarillion was written from Pengolodh’s most likely bias Sinda-from-Doriath’s perspective, perhaps painting the feanorians in a more negative light than they may have been...? Not the deeds committed, but simply the tone and little things such as that if you get what I’m sayin... Just makes things so complicated wow
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