Fun thing about fire is that in its base most state it’s just heat and heat itself is a way for an element to transition itself into another state. It kinda makes sense on why Kai is do adaptable if you look at it like that because he can help others change just like his element can change the form of others. Though I’m probably overthinking about it a lot more then I should lol. 😅
omg i love this! heat is really just energy, making it incredibly versatile!!! like you said, i think it ties in with his strengths. like, his ability to roll with the punches and act quickly, to name a few. you’ve come to the right place, my friend. we love overthinking the Ninja show around here! especially the Red Ninja 😅
Lol true that true that, I mean if you think about it elements in ninjago either refer to actual elements, forms of matter, or just changes in matter. I mean how else do you explain Nya being able to control ice? Even though she is not a master of ice she has the power to control water even in a frozen state. With Kai I like to imagine that he could possibly not just control the heat of fire but also just heat in general like he can possibly control the energy of an element and just change the state of matter and control that. Though maybe I'm just really thinking too far out. (shrugs)
yesyesyes! they (the writers) kind of forgot that ever happened, i feel, but it really opened up a whole new way that elemental powers can operate! but it’s so cool. i love overthinking the elemental powers lol. clearly, it wasn’t meant to be looked into too deeply, but is that going to stop me? absolutely not!
True! I mean there are theories that the green ninja is supposed to be the master of energy but that brings into question Skylor's element of amber. I mean does she just store the energy of the elements meanwhile does the green ninja control all forms of the elements? Its just so interesting to think about in retrospect. Lol to be fair the writers should've expected something like this to happen once their fans grew up. Ten/eleven years later we are all still nerds who love to nerd out about. \>w</
aaaah this is so interesting to me! Amber is a completely unique element for the fact that it is man-made, it wasn’t created/used by the FSM, nor did it exist prior to his coming to Ninjago, like Wind and Water did. it can’t hold the power it absorbs forever, it will either be used up, or fade away over time. (there’s a story called Amber Spiral all about it on the Ninjago wiki! if you’re curious/if you didn’t already know. sorry, i know way too much about this show’s lore lol!) Lloyd’s abilities are purposefully very ambiguous, but dammit! i wanna know! so…can he still control the 4 elements of creation? if so, why has he not used them? what happens if you’re hit by one of his blasts? so many questions!
fr! i mean, to be fair, the show was only supposed to run for like 3 years initially…but, things happen. and now they have a loyal fan base with a LOT of questions!
Ahhh it really is interesting to learn more about the lore of Ninjago~~~~ = w = So interesting! Well to be fair Lloyd has so much power both related and unrelated his powers. Like the dragon thing, the Oni thing, and the gold ninja thing. 😅 Honestly if he gets more crazy then that I won’t know what to think. 😅
True but you gotta appreciate their “let’s wing it attitude!” = w = Although not gunna lie I kinda hated that they took the original four dragons and just kinda mashed them together……it made me sad and it kinda didn’t make sense for me. Like why smash four dragons into one mega dragon just for the green ninja. 😕
Ehhh but that’s just my complaint and who knows maybe I’m not remembering it correctly. 😅
he frustrates me some ngl. 😅 as a character, and for the confusing way his powers work. and how they just keep stacking them on, as you said. like…when will this stop? will it ever stop? lol it feels a tad excessive to me, personally. i also find it somewhat boring. like, oh, he’s the most powerful person on Ninjago now? wasn’t he always? can we find something fresh to do with him, please?
oops i’m rambling again.
exactly! they’ve gotten so far just winging it lol. and, with the exception of the occasional plot hole, it’s impressive how well the seasons build on each other in a way that makes (enough) sense. Ninjago is fascinating, both because of its continuity, and what goes on behind the scenes.
i guess they wanted to make a fun dragon with four heads? it was kind of odd how they just stuck those bad boys together and called it a day. i suppose the green ninja gets a four headed dragon because he’s special, and all that. (just…why?)
dw you are remembering correctly! i find it a little odd, too.
Right!!!!! I mean I get overpowering a character that’s just a common anime trope! But this is just way too excessive with Llyod! Maybe just under power Gina little or just maybe show off the other elemental powers off more, or heck not have him be the central figure in practically every SINGLE ARC! 😤 Sorry now I’m getting fired up. 😅
Never underestimate the power of improv. Truly Ninjago is the example of how to do it right. 😁
You know what sucks? I just read the wiki and learned all of those dragons are dead. Not gone or back to the dragon realm, nope they are dead! Killed by the Iron Baron and his dragon slayers!!!!! I mean WTF!!!!! Why would they kill them! They were so important to the ninjas!!!! I just can’t ya know?!?!!? Like why would the writers do that????? It’s the equivalent to showing the ninja’s their dead pet puppy!!!!! 😰😭
yeah i’m totally cool with overpowered characters! simply for the fact you can do so much with them. but Lloyd’s just kind of there. gaining new power-ups, just because. i know it’s to contrast with the fact he never asked for such a life, and such powers by extension. i do find it vaguely interesting, but they haven’t really gone into that in the show. so i don’t have a reason to get invested. but they could! and it would make him a better character. omg HEAVY on him being a central figure in every single (meaning most) arcs! it gets so annoying to me. it all has to tie back into him somehow, but like…Ninjago has a strong cast of distinct characters! Lloyd doesn’t need to be there all of the time.
this is a fact! the writers of Ninjago have improv down pat.
oh yeah i remember that! i’m pretty sure its bones make up the Iron Baron’s throne, iirc. this show gets so brutal at times. it literally is like showing them their dead puppy 😭 it’s so messed up.
Same I just wish the writers would be a little more creative on using Lloyd’s overpowered format instead of just stacking more and more. 😅
The worst part of the iron baron arc I think is that they kinda just like skipped over how the throne was the ninja’s dragons and it makes me sad to think that they either didn’t recognize their own dragons or just believed they were different dragons. 😢
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