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  1. 2hot (Guest) on Chapter 1 Sun 13 Jan 2019 06:28PM UTC

    I love Deadpool being cunning! I think you're talking about the Hitmonkey arc, where I really liked how Deadpool is acting silly but he steps into a room and he reads the angles of the shots and movements of the killer based on nothing but the bloodsplatter.

    I definitely really like how you write Deadpool's views on killing so far. It's humorous, but underneath that it is good information that he thinks of it so casually and not that he is sadistic or anything, he's just so desensitized to it. I think him being ex-Special Forces or military is canon and that would help. Everybody dies sooner or later, what's the big deal about making it sooner, c'mon evil minions know the limited life expectancy when they take the job!

    I have very spotty knowledge of the comics, so I don't know if Spiderman has ever faced the problem Batman has: that deciding to keep his own hands clean and not kill a villain makes the hero partly responsible for all the murders the villain then carries out, which wouldn't have happened if the hero had killed him. I don't think Spidey's villains are as much mass-murdering psychopaths as Batman's, but he definitely allows criminals who put people in danger to continue doing it by not killing them. And I can see Deadpool being totally nonplussed about how the right and heroic choice should be stopping the bad guy permanently, right? Police are allowed to shoot armed perps!

    I hope we get to see Deadpool convincing Spiderman to loosen up and let go of the guilt some. They're so alike, they just both need to find a middle ground between their extremes and they'd be so good together!

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    1. rupertgayes on Chapter 1 Sun 13 Jan 2019 10:59PM UTC

      Yeah, I know he's a funny character, but he's got lots of cunning, ability to be proactive, and be compassionate. Some comics show those sides of him more than others, of course. I view Deadpool (and Spider-man also) as victims of circumstance, trying to make do with what they have. Peter certainly didn't want his loved ones to get hurt or killed because of his involvement in their lives, but it happened, and Wade... he was in the military and did one of those top secret special forces type things, and before doing that, he apparently tried to commit suicide before he hit 19 (I have just the Marvel wiki to back me up on this and haven't read the comic this is mentioned in) but just like... oof. There's a lot there. Between him killing others and him dying so often, how could he not get desensitized to it? There are definitely moments where he doesn't want to kill someone, if he likes them or thinks they're innocent, and it can really tear him up. His morals are a lot more flexible than others, but he still has them.

      My own comic knowledge is sparse, too, I started reading some of the short series a few months ago, stories that wrap up in ten issues or less. I think in the Spider-man/Deadpool comic, Spider-man seriously considers killing a mutant that was ruining his life and threatening his loved ones, though he ends up not going through with it, and that may have been the closest he's gotten to cold blooded murder.

      I feel like a lot of heroes who don't kill came about because of the comic codes and sensibilities at the time, and those characters who were borne in such an environment still carry that as a huge foundation of their personality, which is also why a lot of the comic book characters that came out in the 80's and 90's were a lot grittier, anti-hero-y and not afraid to kill, like Cable and Deadpool. Obviously there's exceptions both ways, and characters who have been rewritten over time to stay up to date, but it does make me wonder if Spider-man had debuted in the 90s, if he would have been an anti-hero instead? The whole 'Spider-man tying up bad guys for the cops to arrest' does seem fairly simplistic and in tune with the typical (aka White) American ideals of the mid twentieth century, versus now where there's a lot more discourse surrounding police brutality and problems with that institution as a whole. And I don't know if the comics really address that either. I guess not every comic can have the same depth as a 400 level Sociology class, but it is an interesting problem, with not-so easy answers. I guess from Spider-man's perspective, he might think all that risk is worth it for the chance that a villain gets reformed. It feels like one of those debates about the death penalty, to be honest!

      I did just read a comic about the different spider verses, since the movie was so fun, and there are a few Spider men/women who do kill due to their backgrounds. One of which was trained by Wolverine and adapted to his gray morals over time. I think an AU of that Spidey meeting Wade would be interesting. I do wish there were more fics of Spider-man and Deadpool being an unstoppable duo of anti-heroes (in love).

      Wow sorry to turn this response into a long winded analysis on comics sort of, but I'm hoping you're getting something out of it!

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