Comment on Rhaegar Targaryen's 'Wives', Children, and the Women who left Him

  1. richardofbordeaux Wed 14 Feb 2024 11:03PM UTC

    awwww thank you so much! this is so sweet!
    i wholeheartedly believe lyanna wanted freedom (i.e., a squire) - not to run away with a creepy prince, get pregnant, and essentially be his broodmare? from what we know of book lyanna... that doesn't match her character. i think book lyanna was innocent and naive - whereas show lyanna was beyond cruel and cunning.
    why tf would elia ever get with a child... yikes. and rhaenys definitely wouldnt forget her mother OR her brother - the real queen to be and the real aegon. i've read quite a few fics where she took the throne from jon and lyanna. jon in this series is the son of ned and ashara - rhaegar and lya's son is basically joffrey :)
    and fr yeah, catelyn was a literal godsend compared to other highborn ladies. cersei wouldve murdered him and had him smothered - catelyn just mostly ignored him, but at the very least... she never really wished harm upon him. and regarding her saying "it shouldve been you" - her son was in a coma, she was grieving. not an excuse, but i truly understood how she felt. if jon had been a girl, i think she may have been an aunt figure. id rather have cat as a stepmother over lysa, cersei, or even lyanna 🫠 cat reminds me of my own mother so much, one of the many reasons why ill always defend her

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    1. Guest (Guest) Wed 14 Feb 2024 11:56PM UTC

      Yeah I definately agree that all that Book Lyanna really wanted was some freedom and was too innocent and naive of how the real world worked and got caught up in Rhaegar's prophecies. Also I mean Show Lyanna is hypocritical in not wanting to marry Robert because he had a bastard daughter, but she ran away with a married prince who had two children? She agreed to be a second wife or mistress and give birth to bastards?

      And about Jon/Elia, yeah its real weird. I've seen multiple harem fics of Jon with every lady of Westeros. I only read those for the smut not the plot to be honest. I think most people just write him as a self insert.

      As for Catelyn yeah she really was the best Jon could have gotten. Yeah she may have been somewhat cold to him but why wouldn't she be?

      People need to remember that Westeros is not the modern world with our modern viewpoint on children and marriage. I mean, these are highborn NOBLE families, not just an average middle class family in America or anything. They rule over vast lands and lots of people. Bastards are usually at the bottom of the family and not something that most lords or ladies like to be made public unless forced to. They usually are supposed to be in the background and forgotten about, taken care of sure, but not treated as anything special unless all legitimate heirs are dead.

      I like Catelyn too and I think people are too critical on her for the wrong reasons. She wasn't perfect but she fiercely loved her children. I think most people who don't like her are those who are ultra pro-North and just hate everything "Southron" and just dismiss the south as weak and dumb and frivolous.

      I've seen some fics were basically Ned, Robb or Jon have massive harems of southron ladies, including married ones. All of the lords of the southern kingdoms are portrayed as weak and incompetent fools who are no match for the "strong, hard and HONORABLE" Northmen who can do no wrong except for the traitorous Boltons who work with the cowardly ANDALS.

      What are your thoughts on that? Just curious.

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      1. Guest (Guest) Sun 28 Jul 2024 09:09AM UTC

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