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  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 10 Mar 2025 11:13PM UTC

    So true, Percy would have question some of his relations but never his and Grover. I think they are the only two that actually talk about any of the problems between the two of them, with everyone else it they just seem to ignore the problem after it is no longer relevant. Like I don't think Annabeth said she was sorry for the making Percy act as bait in the first and their are few other issues that are never addressed between the two of them that makes me not really like their relationship. Not going lie I was kind of surprised when Annabeth first kissed Percy, again when it was hinted at the fact Percy may like her but I liked reading their relationship in the books but after having some of the stuff pointed out to me it makes a little but uncomfortable since it doesn't seem all that health. She got so worked up over their one month anniversary and expected Percy to have something big planned but they never talked out it and she didn't have anything planned she just expected him to do something for her without doing the same for her. In one of the short stories, I think the one with Beckendorf where they first find the dragon it says that Percy doesn't like being called seaweed brain and that he asked Annabeth stop but she wouldn't. It also says that he is more afraid of her then monsters, witch could have be joking but it sort of falls flat as a joke in the context. Not to mention the judo flip and the fact that Annabeth ends up being afraid of Percy and I'm pretty sure he knows that she was afraid of him and I don't think that ever got talked about between the two of them. So while I don't think his loyalty would change when it comes to Annabeth, she is one of his best friends, I think the nature of their relationship might change and either become healthier after everything is over and done with since they would actually talk about the stuff or they decided that they are better off as friends but stay insanely close. I really don't if Percy is paired with anyone, he could be with Annabeth, he could be single, or with a different character I don't really care as long as their relationship is written in a way that seems healthy.

    But just imagine the panic Grover is going through, because he knows that Percy is in the hands of the enemy and they are doing something to him to make him question his loyalty and he has no idea what, either because Percy wouldn't talk about it or because he can't. So Grover is supper worried about Percy and what could be done to him, he is worried about Annabeth who he finds out is alone in the pit, and he is just trying to keep everything together because he has to keep a leave head because he might be the only thing keeping Percy one their side. He doesn't what to share that with anyone because you know the gods already voted to kill Percy in the past what if word gets out that Percy was questioning his loyalty to the gods. He knows that Percy has loyalty is to the demigods but the gods don't know that.

    100% he would be so freaked out over feeling safe while he was with the enemy that his escape attempts are harder to stop because he is pushing throw and ignoring the the disappointed parent faces by reminding himself that his mom would be disappointed with he didn't do his best to get free and get to safety. What if Ody and Pen think that Percy is dying, like they think that Percy isn't taking the talk about valuing his life well is because he doesn't have that much time left and is reckless because what does he have to lose if he is dying any way. Party of their reason for thinking this is they don't know what happens to souls that reincarnate unwilling, they might live shorter lives bc soul wants to get back to the underworld, who knows it might explain why Percy seems like he doesn't value his life, he can tell on some leave that he doesn't belong in the world of the living. That makes they super worried and they end up dragging Percy to a doctor much to his confusion, and they find out what therapy is and they drag him to their as well. Percy is just really confused bc the enemy just dragged him to a therapist.

    Percy looking to Paul to be his one sane parent, only to find out that he is a little to accepting of the godly world to be completely sane and just gives up. All the adults in his are crazy but at lest he doesn't have to hide his craziness he just point at anyone of his 5? parents and say that he gets it from them. Ody and Paul friendship would be so cute, Paul could help Ody get used to the modern world and Ody could answer his questions about the ancient one.

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    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Tue 11 Mar 2025 07:40AM UTC

      Yess i think, after somehow knowing all that, Ody and Pen would have a talk with Percy and boundaries and communication. I think that'd be one of the few successful talks, since Percy checks it with Grover afterwards and he does say what the couple said is true, so i think Percy would genuinely consider breaking up with Annabeth now.

      Poor Grover! I think he's one of the more healthy ones through the series, and he's the one running with the most information. He's scared the gods will punish Percy, so he's getting more frustrated and trying desperately to find Percy. He doesn't mind his best friend questioning his loyalty, far from it, what he minds is that questioning was due to the ENEMY.

      I think, though, due to Percy being loyal to the demigods and not the gods, there's no way he'll join Gaia. With him getting increasingly desperate, i think there'll come a time when in his escape attempt he'll genuinely try to fight Ody and Pen, though it's shot down quickly because Percy can't bring himself to hurt them, since they're his old parents even if he doesn't know that. Even if Ody and Pen are unharmed, they're still very worried their child tried to outright fight them just to leave. They don't understand the situation with the demigods, only the Gods themselves, so they're missing key information. Percy doesn't want to join Gaia because he's seen this situation with Kronos, and he knows how that went. Percy knows that demigods won't be safe under Gaia, and he's determined to fight against her, regardless of the strange, paternal couple that seemed to care for him.

      Percy 100% wouldn't talk to the therapist, he'd think it's a ploy by Gaia to find his weaknesses. Either he'd stay silent or (the most likely option) bullshit his way into appearing either completely sane or too insane for therapy to work. He's silly like that. Ody and Pen are just glad their child seems to be fine if he's continuing his bullshitting career.

      Paul is definitely Ody's favourite person outside of Pen and Percy. The guy is happy and genuine and he helps Percy with his dyslexia without judgment, That definitely gets him brownie points from Ody. I think since Ody is at the end of the day a champion of Athena he'd be very eager to know the most he can about the modern world, and Paul as a teacher has both the knowledge and the resources to teach Ody. They'd go on little expeditions during the day with Paul just pointing out things, maybe in Ancient Greek to not be understood (Ody would definitely teach Paul Ancient Greek as thanks), and Ody just feels happy because the last time he had this sort of companionship was during the War with Troy.

      Ody and Pen would definitely be happy and smug to know they became icons and standards of romance in modern literature.

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      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Tue 11 Mar 2025 10:44PM UTC

        Yup, Percy wont be teaming up with Gaia, he might fake a team up to get more freedom in order to leave but he wont turn on the demigods and joining her for really would be doing that.

        Grover will fully support Percy in whatever as long as it his decision, right now he can't be sure how to support his friend because he doesn't know what the enemy is doing to him. He want to be supportive and have Percy back but he doesn't know how much of Percy questioning is him or enemy manipulation. He end up decided that he would just be 100% honest with him about everything even if it means agreeing with the enemy because that is whats best for Percy.

        Ooo, after their fight, Ody and Pen start to question if they doing things the right way, they still fully believe that the gods have been using their son as a pawn and need to be taken down but they question their decision about keeping Percy at the base. They could see how tense the demigod was and maybe they take him out on a field trip away from everything in order to relax. And maybe they start asking Percy questions in an effort to bond and they start getting the full story and context that was much need. It doesn't make everything ok because some thing are just bad with or without context but they can start seeing where Percy is coming from.

        Now I'm just imagining Percy board/tense and deicing to have fun by being a little shit and goes between bullshitting the therapist into thinking he is completely sane and suddenly making it seems like he is insane. He would go between the two and to gasslight the therapist into think that he one of the things. Like if he is acting sane he would denia all of his insane shit and vice versa, wanting to see how long he could do this before they crack.

        I love Paul and Ody friendship, maybe Ody also teaches Paul sword fighting after hearing that Paul a bit of experience ( I think paul pick up a sword and sort of help out during the war while Sally had a shot gun, do idea if that cannon or a fic )

        They would be so smug about it, and talk about how they rub it in other peoples faces when they eventually ended up underworld for the second time

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        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Wed 12 Mar 2025 07:35AM UTC

          Grover is best boy for being emotionally healthy and smart ❤️ I think that'd definitely help Percy both ways. He knows Grover is being completely honest, and i think that would instantly break the small part inside him that's being convinced he's being manipulated by the gods, seeing his best friend agree with the enemy. I think eventually Percy would open up and Grover would be kind of angry initially because he thinks the couple are outright manipulating Percy, since Grover isn't there and can't see how genuine their affection is. It gets resolved easily though because Grover is smart and he voices it and Percy corrects him.

          Yess!!! Ody and Pen leave Gaia (eventually)!!! I think during that expedition, it's when Percy will realise that, oh shit, these guys don't have the whole story, they're being manipulated. Percy would then try to actually talk with Ody and Pen and give context to things that look back, but also talk about a few more things that make everything better. Ody and Pen slowly realise that their child isn't trying to escape to help the gods, he wants to help the demigods. Upon finding out that Gaia definitely won't treat the demigods well and that basically all of the demigods are children Ody and Pen would definitely leave. Percy is just glad that the nice couple is actually nice and wasn't just pretending to get him to lower his guard, though he still doesn't fully trust them (despite his weird, subconscious need to).

          The therapist would so need therapy after Percy is done with them😂 Percy is a master at bullshitting due to his childhood and because of Ody, so there are very few times where the therapist manages to realise that those are lies, though they're easily covered by the mist (I don't remember if Percy can control the mist or not, but I'm just gonna go with yes).

          Yees!!! Paul is very bad at it since there's never been a reason for him to protect himself, and Ody is just taken back to times more simple where some of his soldiers were shit at the sword because they never needed to use it. Ody likes Paul for who he is but a good part of it is also the major nostalgia that Paul gives him. Paul likes Ody because greek stuff is interesting to him and hey, the guy went through the Odyssey! He deserves a friend. They have little get-togethers and it's Paul that convinces Ody to give Sally a second chance. They definitely teach each other stuff at every possible opportunity.

          Oh yea, DEFINITELY. Ody and Pen would lose it finding out people literally ask each other 'would you wait 20 years for me?' they are incredibly smug they're so important in romance. Everyone will know about it in under two days when they return to the underworld.

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          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Wed 12 Mar 2025 10:12PM UTC

            Grover, really is the best. He is making up for everyone else's mistakes by making sure Percy knows that he is loved and supported unconditionally.

            Ody and Pen would totally just shelve their plan to take down the gods. They know that Gaia is bad and all and help the demigods since they are just kids but if they feel like it would be best for the gods to be gone they would break out the battle plans. If they demigods ever want to over through their parents all they need to do is go to they couple and get the plan that are already made.

            That poor therapist, when everything is over and done with, I'm just imaging Mr.D going over the things he missed with the spilt was going on and some how gets to watch Percy slowly push the poor guy into his realm of insanity and just break down laughing. The god gains some respect for the demigod that day.

            I love that Paul would be the only reason family dinners aren't terribly award. He really saved family night by asking Ody to gave Sally a second chance.

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            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Thu 13 Mar 2025 07:37AM UTC

              Yes! Ody and Pen were initially wary of Grover due to Gaia showing them the stuff he did without context, but after leaving Gaia and actually experiencing everyone interacting with their kid, they basically adopt Grover due to how good he is to Percy. Grover is just happy the couple isn't actually evil, though he does make it clear he won't take any more attempts at manipulating Percy from them.

              Ahah One of the demigods being frustrated and making a single comment and Ody and Pen just show up with a full, detailed battle plan on how to defeat the gods. I think they'll be a bit happy to see that the demigods don't actually give a single fuck about the gods, they're just easier to live with than anything else that's tried to rise, and the demigods in general are tired of fighting and just want to rest right now. They become some sort of therapy-adjacent figures in camp because Ody experienced a war and fighting monsters like them and Pen experienced having to wait without knowing (like how whenever someone goes on a quest, the ones staying in camp will have to wait without knowing if they're even alive right now). The camp quickly grows loyal to this couple that cares more about them than their parents, and now Ody n Pen are essentially Uncle and Aunt to A LOT of children :).

              Yesssss Poor therapist guy. I think Percy would ask Mr.D to restore the guy's sanity and make him forget the whole thing when he finds out that the therapist doesn't in fact work for Gaia and was trying to find his weaknesses, this is actually just a regular mortal, oops.

              If Paul had to miss a family dinner it just didn't happen at first. Now Ody, Pen and Sally are actually friends so Paul can miss it!! He will still be missed though, Ody is friends with Sally but closer to Paul, who he doesn't get to see very often due to Paul being the most detached from the divine world out of everyone. Pen and Sally now like to gossip, Pen absolutely adores Sally now (it was helped that Pen found out Sally is an absolute riot and would definitely help the couple fight the gods if asked). Sally gives Pen her cookie recipe so Pen can make it for Percy when he's homesick (for the apartment).

              At my last mention of homesickness i got the idea of Percy being homesick of ithaca! Perhaps his soul feels heavy with nostalgia due to being reincarnated against his will, and he gets all the symptoms for homesickness, except he doesn't know what home he wants, doesn't remember, and he doesn't know how to cure this homesickness because he doesn't know what he's missing. Ody and Pen help him through it when they notice by making a few Ithacan dishes and Percy 100% cried because he's been feeling that homesickness his whole life and for the first time it's not there anymore. Percy definitely nags the couple for the recipes, even if i think that would happen while Pen and Ody are still with Gaia. He doesn't care that this is the enemy only that he felt relief for the first time.

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              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Thu 13 Mar 2025 10:17PM UTC

                Grover standing up to them for Percy sake just makes them even more determined to adopt him.

                I think their would be a phase where the campers didn't know how to interact with Ody and Pen and then i just goes from those adult are weird why are they all up in our business, too wait we can relate those adults, too those adults care about us?! to we can never let them leave, those are our adults now

                He so would, then Ody and Pem would find out what Percy did and put him in therapy for real, along with the rest of camp, they get sally on their side and everyone just gave up fighting it and accepted their fate

                Thats so cute, Percy maybe feeling a was feeling a bit worrid about how his mom would react to him having other parents and that all just goes away when Pen makes Sally's cookies because it's shows his moms approval, she doesn't share the recipe with people who isn't family

                I absolutely love the idea that Percy is homesick for ithaca!! Maybe the home cooked food is the first time Percy really lowers his guard around the couple, like he doesn't want to be their, is on edge and to make him feel better his parents make his favorite meal and it works and meal time is the only time Percy doesn't have his guard up around the couple because he just forget that he is supposed to but raises it back up after he is done eating,

                Grover wonder if the couple did anything to the food at first and makes his worries known to Percy but Percy couldn't find it in himself to worry all that much because the food was too good to care about that little fact

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                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Fri 14 Mar 2025 07:29AM UTC

                  The various phases of being adopted by a camp of children 😂 Ody and Pen quickly realise that they have been deigned the camp's adults™ and they wear the title with pride.

                  Pftt The whole camp blames Percy for this since they've all managed to escape therapy for so long and now due to Ody and Pen they're getting it. Percy just shrugs because he doesn't want it either but what can you do against two legends and one pratically a goddess?

                  Aww yea I think the recipe sharing would be the turning point where Pen and Sally pass from being polite kind-of friends for Percy's sake to actually good friends. Pen would share and teach Sally recipes from Ithaca and they'd spend afternoons trying to see if they can adjust them to modern technology while also keeping the taste. Percy is just happy his moms are getting along.

                  Yes yes yes yes Ody and Pen just making Ithacan food also for nostalgia over the three of them finally being together even if Percy hates them and just watching Percy melt at the food. Ody and Pen make sure mealtime is as extensive as they can get away with so Percy stays completely relaxed for more time around them. Maybe with more familiar recipes Percy even actually cries and it'd be the only time he accepts comfort from Ody and Pen.

                  Percy is just glad that little feeling inside him is receding, and he doesn't care if he's being drugged or something. Grover is worried but lets it slide upon seeing how relieved his best friend is.

                  I think that homesickness would extend to beyond food. Maybe Percy has always longed for a returned father, and that's why he was so curious about Poseidon even before he was bought to camp. The sword feels natural on his hands, and he can't help but feel relieved at finally touching it despite never having learned before. Sometimes Percy catches himself homesick for a home by the sea, and reasons with himself it's probably the beach home him and Sally go to that he's homesick about. Percy looks at a book of the Odyssey, and instantly feels homesickness for being told the stories verbally. little things throughout his life like that, just enough that Percy cries when he stops feeling them with Ody and Pen.

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                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Fri 14 Mar 2025 07:53PM UTC

                    I think the kids, maybe the younger ones at camp or maybe the older ones as joke making names cards for the couple Pen's would say adult #1 and Ody's would say adult #3 because chiron becomes after Pen but before Ody in the order of who has the most power at camp

                    oo, Percy thinking the homesickness is be his a demigod at first, like how his ADHD is, and for the longest time he was just waiting for it lessen or go away know that he was at camp but it didn't and maybe he asked other campers how they delt with it and they were just confused and Percy realized that it wasn't a demigod thing it was a him them and he felt even more othered, so when it went away and he had a chance to get answers about why he always felt like he did he took his chance regardless of the dangers, he wasn't going let it this slip through his figures

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                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sat 15 Mar 2025 07:36AM UTC

                      Pen just accepts her place as more powerful than the immortal centaur who's been training heroes/demigods even before she was even born. Chiron has worked with children for enough time to know he's not winning this and just takes Pen's help in reeling them in. Ody finds it hilarious since at least he isn't in charge and doesn't have to be responsible this time.

                      Yess Percy found out about the gods and felt relief at finally knowing why he felt that way, but when he figures out it's not a demigod thing the feeling becomes even stronger and harder to ignore. By the time Gaia takes them and he's forced to be with Ody and Pen on a daily basis he's grown desperate to know what the homesickness is, so when the food they prepare help him, maybe he pretends to lower his guard so they grow relaxed and more loose-lipped. Percy normally isn't manipulative but he's desperate for answers, and plus this is the enemy, it's not like what he's doing is technically morally wrong, Ody and Pen are working for Gaia!

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                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sun 16 Mar 2025 05:44AM UTC

                        She would use her power reasonably 90%, sometimes she craves Chaos and lets them run free, the gods fear those days because it is all of camp not just cabin 11, and Percy out for their blood. Chiron just living the live with other adults that will help out with the kids without any rude remarks. Ody doesn't see any thing wrong with this, his wife is the best, it makes sense that she would have the most power.

                        Just Mr. D being sent back to camp and he eventually asks where his name card is since he is also an adult but the kids tell him that since he grounded by his dad he couldn't be an adult and can't be given a card.

                        Percy would be relentless in his search for answers, he would use all the tools he had in order to get them

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                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sun 16 Mar 2025 07:02AM UTC

                          Chiron is petty and has lived for a long time, he looks forward for these days since he can finally get revenge on the gods being irresponsible and getting their children killed.

                          Mr.D gets treated like an older child on the edge of adulthood and honestly? He does not care enough for it. Plus he IS the youngest Olyumpian. He's fine with being treated like a child as long as he gets wine. Ody and Pen just realise that some of the gods are way younger mentally than they thought, and they wonder who is is actually mentally a child (literally).

                          Yess Percy would nag Ody and Pen and maybe pretend/let himself fall asleep next to them and just manipulate them onto relaxing. He feels a bit bad but he's desperate and this is the enemy anyways! He tries immediately to know the recipes, since he doesn't think he can deal with just dealing with the homesickness after finding out a way, and only after he has all the recipes does he try to figure out what the homesickness is.

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                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sun 16 Mar 2025 07:44AM UTC

                            Chiron is getting revenge and he doesn't have to lift a figure and is thrilled about it. He really is living his best life, he potions to give Ody and Pen the same type of immortal as the hunters and work at the camp so he will never have to go back to the way it was before

                            Ody, Pen just adopting Mr.D, along with the rest of camp is just funny to me. Like ya he is god and everything but even he bows down to the parental force of the couple, he is happy to left alone with his wine but he is also happy to send some chaos with the kids when he knows he can't get in trouble for it.

                            Pen and Ody being turn over sharing the respies with Percy and keeping them to themselves. One hand they would hate to denied something their son wants but on the other Percy would have to interact with them act meal times to get the food, if they had over the repies Percy could just make the food on his own and could shot them out of his life

                            Percy probably has all the pieces to put thing to getter but doesn't do it until everything is already over because he had other things to worry about.

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                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sun 16 Mar 2025 04:28PM UTC

                              Ody and Pen are fine with it since they understand how difficult it realistically is for Chiron to care for a camp of demigods whose parents don't care. They're fine with staying around since they know Percy will probably live longer too (i head cannon that demigods live a lot longer than regular mortals, they just draw so many monsters barely any have managed to do so).

                              Yess Mr.D is completely fine with it since at least now he doesn't have to be responsible. Ody and Pen are smart enough to not limit his alcohol intake, but sometimes they'll help him develope new wine recipes and talk about different combinations. It gets Mr.D acting a bit younger since he's so used to being treated like an adult despite gods' brains aging way slower than mortals even if they're fully functioning since birth, that when he's treated younger he just fully regresses. Mr.D will sneakily tell the kids about special info and watch them wreck havoc while drinking and laughing.

                              They end up feeling too bad since they might want to spend time with their son but Percy is clearly desperate and suffering and they can't stand it. They end up teaching him all of the recipes except the few dishes that used to be Tel's favorite so he still stays. It works, especially since Percy starts to actually lower his guard when the couple do as he asked. Plus, now he's more focused on finding out about the homesickness, and he knows Ody and Pen have something to do with it.

                              YESSS Percy is incredibly smart, he probably could've pieced it together since he has read about the Odyssey at camp, but he's too worried about Gaia, the demigods and the homesickness to wonder what makes the couple care for him.

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                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 17 Mar 2025 03:34AM UTC

                                oo, what if no one is really sure how old a demigod could get since none of them ever died of old age before. Like they are always killed in some kind of battle, cursed, or die do something reckless before they come close to dying of old age

                                Just Mr.D having the time of his life bc he get his wine, no responsibility, and free entertainment in the form of watching the kids prank gods. This is the most fun he had in years and loves that he can unleash those hellions on people that annoyed him

                                Percy being upset when everything is over because he has been in the underworld like three times and no one mentioned that he was a reincarnation. It would have so much of his problems if he had that one little piece of info. It would have made the homesickness make sense

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                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Mon 17 Mar 2025 08:35PM UTC

                                  Percy would be the first since he has so many people who are protective over him 😂

                                  Mr.D practically living in his personal Elysium. The camp take to him quickly since he isn't as grumpy now that he's not being forced to take care of children. He's more carefree and dry and the camp just adds fire to it and encourages him.

                                  Percy would immediately set his eyes on pranking Hades because that guy was literally his favorite uncle and he didn't tell Percy! Hades will definitely feel the brunt force of Percy's pranks (probably with Nico and other demigods helping in as well). He's definitely annoyed on a comedic level, but i think there'll definitely be some sort of trauma at feeling something you don't understand, knowing you're the only one who feels it. Knowing what is it yet not understanding/knowing *why*. The only people who do are the literal enemy- i think that would definitely screw Percy's mind over even just a little bit. The pranks to Hades are also a way to cope. I think Percy would feel a bit invalid or dehumanised when he finds out Ody and Pen were only nice to him and cared for him because he used to be their son. I think that would lead Percy to thinking they don't care about *Percy* they care about *Telemachus*, despite the fact that the couple cares for both. Percy definitely has enough self-esteem issues to go down that rabbit hole.

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                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 17 Mar 2025 09:39PM UTC

                                    Just like Percy well into this 100s but still looking like he is in his late teens and early twenties slightly wondering if he ascended or turn immortal some how but he still bleed red, the other demigods his age are same boat, and both Apollo and Poseidon ashore him that he is still mortal and are just as confused as he is about this

                                    Ya that would definitely mess up some way he would turn his pranks on Hade for coping. I think that would lead to some kind of talk because it was well known that Percy like Hades more than Zeus and when Hades noticed that he was getting pranked more than his little he would want to know way. Maybe Hades couldn't tell that Percy was reincarnated because the fates were hiding the fact that Telemachus was reincarnated unwillingly and the whole things end with Percy getting some kind of reimbursement from the underworld for all the trouble he went though for being a unwilling reincarnation

                                    I think that Ody and Pen would be quick to put a stop to Percy feeling when the notice and make sure that he knows the care for him for him not just because he was Tel. It might take them a bit to notice because they are more busy with camp and Percy is good at hiding things but they will notice and have anther talk with him.

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                                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Tue 18 Mar 2025 07:00AM UTC

                                      Percy and the demigods his age have weekly health checkups to see if any of their blood looks a bit more golden than before 😂 They don't understand wtf is going on, but Ody and Pen are vibing with this (Especially Ody since his son is still mentally 20-ish and that just gives him more time to bond with him.)

                                      Hades has learned to be a great therapist due to his children often having issues, so Percy leaves the underworld with compensation, a therapy session, and actual closure. I think he'd just reach home and start crying his eyes out because this is the first time he's got closure for pretty much everything. I think afterwards Percy decides to actually try out therapy like his parents have been suggesting. Hades just becomes more of Percy's favourite uncle (not like there's any good competition either way).

                                      Yes!! Ody and Pen feel bad because they do care about Percy. They're a bit older so unlike Percy they understand that the divide between the past lives of reincarnations is incredibly blurred. There's no Percy without Tel and no Tel without Percy, to care for one you need to care for the other too. Ody and Pen always understood this due to their time in the underworld. Percy didn't and got lost in his insecurities. He ends up crying when the couple have that talk with him, and Ody and Pen just comfort him and assure him that they love him.

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                                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Tue 18 Mar 2025 09:22PM UTC

                                        Everyone is just wondering wtf is going one but the gods and the rest of immortals don't really care because they get to send more time with the people they become close too. After a while the weekly health checkups change to once a year or once every other year because they just got too tired of doing then and sort of accepted what will happen will happen, if they do ascend they would be doing it as a group and that doesn't seem so bad

                                        Hades becoming one Percy favorite gods because he fixed one of his problems instead of adding to them. Just like Hades ranking above Poseidon in Percy list of favorites partly because Poseidon Percy soul hasn't forgive the god for what he did to Ody and partly because Poseidon is really bad about wording thing and makes then worse about half the time and Hades never lets Poseidon live it down.

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                                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Wed 19 Mar 2025 07:20AM UTC

                                          Everyone just starts to vibe with it, but Ody and Pen are a bit miffed since they know how mentally charging it is to become a god and they don't want that for their child. But if they become immortal like Chiron then they're fine with it.

                                          Hades is one of the few gods Percy actually likes and trusts, but the second list is growing because of Apollo's sibling shenanigans with the rest of Olympus. Percy doesn't like Ares but he trusts him because he knows Ares will help him if only for Apollo. Poseidon is just acting like a kicked puppy half of the time Percy isn't there because he feels guilty over what he did. If Ody found out it would definitely make him day, though he would be PISSED to find out what Poseidon said to Percy in their first meeting

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                                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Wed 19 Mar 2025 08:07PM UTC

                                            Ody and Pen just throwing all the kids back into therapy because they think the kids are vibe with this a little too well. Also them just questioning Mr.D about his ascension to see if it was anything like the what the kids are going throw throw now.

                                            I the sibling shenanigans and that Percy gets dragged into them every once in a while. It does wander for his relationships with other gods. I think over the year Ares and Percy would become sort of friends but the type of friend Percy has with Clarisse the "I can mess with you but no one else has the right" type deal. Ody will find out and then it would six hundred stickes part two

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                                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Thu 20 Mar 2025 07:14AM UTC

                                              The kids aren't as upset now but they still try to refuse and deny therapy citing this isn't a problem mortals could understand. It just leads to them getting therapy from someone who's clear-sighted. Maybe Mr.D himself since I'm pretty sure he's the god of mental health too. Aha yea Ody and Pen are just grilling into Mr.D and compiling everything they know so they figure it out, but the kids seem okay so the couple is more relaxed.

                                              Yess Percy and Ares would often joke about getting a rematch for the fight they had in Percy's first quest. They sometimes actually spar and Ares gives out pointers, not necessarily because Percy needs them, but much of what Percy does is subconscious and so he's only really good with a sword in deadly situations. Ares' pointers help Percy realise what he's been doing subconsciously and now he's also really good with the sword in normal situations. But yea Ody would have to be held back if he found out, and certainly not by Pen or Sally, the girls are upset as well.

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                                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Fri 21 Mar 2025 12:59AM UTC

                                                Its more the principal of the matter than anything, they know that therapy helped them in the past but they are fine now and don't really a reason to go back. I would image that Ody and Pen would really push the kids into talking to Mr. D instead of a clear-sighted mortal because Mr. D would be able to give the kids advise.

                                                This would be first time Percy is actually taught by someone since Luke and happy to see his skills improve and he as a lot of fun even if he will never attempt it. Just Sally getting to lay into Poseidon while Ody and Pen watch on the side lines because she got the god first. People where so focused on stopping Ody and Pen they forgot about Sally. Chiron who was on of the people holding Ody back know lives in fear of Sally because he knows he also said some questionable things to Percy in the beginning.

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                                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Fri 21 Mar 2025 07:29AM UTC

                                                  Yesss The kids may be 100 and something years old but they're as stubborn and petty as when they were 20 and it SHOWS. Mr.D doesn't have much good advice, since the kids do not exhibit any sign of turning god, so he just gives them half-normal therapy half-poker game in their sessions.

                                                  Apollo is just watching on the sidelines, happy that his boyfriend is finally getting along with his brother. Yess Chiron is forever in fear despite the fact that Percy forgives him. Chiron should just be healthy and confess, but I don't think Chiron is all that healthy since he's been watching the children he's practically raised go into their deaths for centuries. Dude desperately needs therapy he just hides it well :(

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                                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Fri 21 Mar 2025 08:47PM UTC

                                                    Therapy with Mr.D is probably the chillest therapy session the kids ever had because they would say anything and he wouldn't freak out and they would love being able to talk while playing a game.

                                                    In my head, Apollo and Mr. D are super close because where prophecies go insanity trails behind and I got the picture the Mr. D as new god trailing behind Apollo like a duckling. Plus Mr. is the god of theater and that fits well into Apollo's art stuff and i can see the two of them teaming up to make plays. So he would love that Percy and Mr. D were finally getting alone.

                                                    Chiron should just own up and deal with the punishment but their is no way he is healthy after all he as been though so he doesn't. He will just live in fear until Sally passes because he might be scared of Ody and Pen reactions but he knows they are close enough that he doesn't have to be worry about being killed or turned to stone. (I like the idea of Sally keeping medusa head as a just in case option) I think the kids would drag Chiron to get therapy because if they have to go they are making everyone else go.

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                                                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sat 22 Mar 2025 07:36AM UTC

                                                      Mr.D is the chillest in general and the kids love how he's started to act/behave like after giving up the camp director role. Sometimes they can even win against him in the games during therapy and he won't even get upset now!

                                                      Awww yess!!! Apollo just calls Mr.D 'little brother' because of that, since their mental ages also aren't that far apart. After everything is over and done the two decide to make a huge play with camp and record it so it becomes the new introduction video instead of the old one.

                                                      Chiron is unfortunately very hard to drag to anywhere since he's a horse. Percy is just amused but also concerned over Chiron's mental health since it seems to be falling apart very slowly, due to the past 2 wars and seeing so many kids he raised die in front of him (also generally knowing he had to lead said kids to war knowing at least one is dying). Percy just confesses for Chiron, and Sally + Ody and Pen are pissed off at first but Percy explains the situation and what he thinks is going on with Chiron. Sally still gives Chiron a lecture, but it's significantly less than what she would've done had Percy not explained. Ody and Pen are the ones who actually manage to drag Chiron to therapy. They're worried for their friend and nothing is gonna stop them!

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                                                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sun 23 Mar 2025 04:54AM UTC

                                                        The whole camp was excited for the play because it wasn't often they did whole camp actives that wasn't a prank war or some kind of training thing. It was great bonding active for everyone and they could finally replace the old introduction video.

                                                        I was think the kids waited until he was in his wheel chair and then just try pushing him all the way to therapy. It doesn't work because Chiron can just stand up but they tried. Chiron is happy that Percy smoothed thing over with his mom because he knows it could have bee way worse for him other wise, even if he is a little up set that Percy told on him. Ody and Pen are going to drag the whole of the godly world into be health no matter who they have drag along with them kicking and screaming. Not thing will stop them until the reach their goal of their freinds and family being happy and health

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                                                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sun 23 Mar 2025 08:14AM UTC

                                                          Yess!!! At seeing the camp's excitement Ody, Pen and Chiron decide to organise more camp-wide activities for them to have fun and be normal kids. Mr.D and Apollo know their stuff so the play is not only really fun and good but despite not being all that strict (people often forgot their lines and were allowed to just improvise on the scene) it ends up being really good. They upload the video so they can use it as the orientation video but also give a copy of it to the kids so they can go wild with filters and edits.

                                                          Just the kids quietly plotting how to kidnap Chiron into therapy 😂 Yess Chiron is a bit annoyed that Percy told on him but much more glad that he got less lecture. Haha Ody and Pen just dragging everyone into being healthy 😂. I think they'd have a bit of trauma from what happened, since a lot of it could've been avoided with their loved ones/people they knew being mentally okay and communicating, (read: if Eurylochus just expressed his doubts before the windbag situation to Odysseus; if the suitors were actually mentally healthy and didn't try those horrible acts;...) so ever since they found out about therapy they've been sending everyone to it because they're subconsciously scared that bad mental health and miscommunication is gonna ruin all the good things they have now like it did before (they themselves need therapy). They still sometimes quietly grieve the fact that therapy wasn't a thing in their time. It would've saved SO much grief.

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                                                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sun 23 Mar 2025 10:33PM UTC

                                                            I think they would be a yearly play of some kind because they had so much fun in the last one and maybe the winner of capture or the winner of some other game gets to pick what the play is about. They would be other actives but the play becomes a yearly event.

                                                            Ody and Pen learned form their past and wont let history repeat itself. They would put themself though therapy to be a good example for the kids and find that they liked it. Maybe they even get licenses as a therapist.

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                                                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Mon 24 Mar 2025 07:38AM UTC

                                                              They think it's a good idea but it just makes the kids even more competitive. It's then that Ody and Pen find out the punishment for maiming in capture is no desserts for a week and they are PISSED.

                                                              Yesss!!! Healthy mind healthy life!!! Ody and Pen are icons and they immediately become the ultimate role models for camp because they don't just make the kids do something, they follow their own advice!!! They're not hypocrites!!!
                                                              Ody and Pen were royalty and now they're therapists 😂 they 100% become the best therapists in the divine world (not that there's much competition).

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                                                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 24 Mar 2025 07:28PM UTC

                                                                No one know how competitive the kids could get until that point, at times it seems like they take that game more seriously then their own lives. Chiron has been trying to get the some of these campers some self preservation instincts since day one and failed but during that game all the campers suddenly gained some to avoid getting out. The couple thought they found and fixed all the bs in camp at that point in time and are extra pissed since they missed something.

                                                                I think they might self ascend because they have the powerful both as fighters and as the one of the few therapists in the divine world and would have worship with have much the kids look up to them

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                                                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Tue 25 Mar 2025 07:23AM UTC

                                                                  The kids 100% take the game more seriously than their own lives. Chiron has just eventually gave up continuously with each batch that comes to camp, because for some reason all demigods he taught just have a need to take capture the flag wayy more seriously than deadly fights.

                                                                  Ody and Pen just fixing up camp and everytime they turn around there's just more cracks 😂 When they eventually manage to completely fix camp up it's when they're informed about everything wrong in the divine world. Poor couple can't catch a break, but they're determined to make this world better for their son and the other kids.

                                                                  HAHA one of them just gets a cut and their blood is goldish. The couple bans camp from praying to them even jokingly because they do NOT want to be around as gods and deal with Olympus for eternity.

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                                                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Tue 25 Mar 2025 11:31PM UTC

                                                                    Chiron just start thinking about it a trait all demigods have, like it is written into their DNA like the ADHD and because that is the only way he can wrap his head around this and just wondering why that would be the case and then just gives up trying to under it.

                                                                    They are fighting a lose battle but are actually making progress and that scares peoples.

                                                                    The camp just comply no questions asked, they understand that part immortally is one thing and god hood is different. The gods on the other hand are offended

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                                                                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Wed 26 Mar 2025 07:17AM UTC

                                                                      Chiron just turns a blind eye at half the weird stuff most of camp does for his own peace of mind and he's so smart for that.

                                                                      Everyone is scared and awed that the couple is actually fixing stuff because wha ???? There is so much wrong and they're GAINING GROUND ???? The divine world is both eager and scared.

                                                                      For once the camp is nice about it. Plus the couple is so nice to them they don't deserve dealing with the gods for eternity. Ody and Pen argue that the gods are always offended so it's literally fine. Everyone else goes along because what they said isn't exactly a lie...

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                                                                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Wed 26 Mar 2025 09:05PM UTC

                                                                        If their is only one thing that Chiron learned from his long life it is that kids do weird things all the time and it is better to turn a blind eye then to get involved.

                                                                        The gods don't think that it will work because as far as they know you can't stop a acsendtion after it started but it some how did. The couple got weekly check ups and ever week their is less gold in their blood

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                                                                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Thu 27 Mar 2025 07:29AM UTC

                                                                          Chiron is very smart when it comes to knowing when to keep a box closed. Now he just has to teach that to Ody and Pen and the three will be the ultimate camp directors.

                                                                          That's so funny cause that just implies that the whole camp praying to the couple jokingly or not would be enough to make them gods. Like just a camp of children is enough to reach godhood. The gods are very confused.

                                                                          Maybe after their blood returns to completely red the lift the ban and the children start praying to them jokingly again, and their blood starts becoming gold again, and it's banned again, etc etc etc. the camp and Ody and Pen are actually just being purposely and on a loop of Ody and Pen becoming more divine and then returning mortal. They all do this to fuck with the gods since the gods said you couldn't stop ascension. The gods are confused and slightly afraid.

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                                                                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Thu 27 Mar 2025 10:37PM UTC

                                                                            It will take him a while because Ody and Pen would want to fix/question thing instead of turning a blind eye

                                                                            I think it would be commination of everything, like their fame bc of their myth, how much the gods and other immortals respect and fear them and the kids praying is just what tips them over the edged. So while they are the key factor they are the only factor but everyone is just too shocked to realize that yet.

                                                                            The camp is back into the their trolling aria, ( they never really lift it but they had to calm thing down for a bit) and Ody and Pen is just feeding the chaos instead of directing it

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                                                                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Fri 28 Mar 2025 07:00PM UTC

                                                                              Ody and Pen are disgruntled but after a while they just learn to accept that demigods are freaking weird.

                                                                              Oooo yea, maybe the Athena cabin figured it out, and because they're so attached to Ody they just spend WEEKS online manipulating around so the myths the public knows is *just* detached enough from what actually happened that it doesn't count anymore in making the couple gods.

                                                                              Ody and Pen are amazing leaders and unfortunately for the gods involved they also like to stirr up stuff. The couple not only feed and encourage the chaos they add onto it by teaching the kids tricks that they know the kids will use to be more chaotic.

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                                                                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sat 29 Mar 2025 07:34AM UTC

                                                                                They just reached their limit on crazy and learn that some things are better left alone when it comes to demigods

                                                                                They couple are grateful and make sure that the Athena cabin knows its.

                                                                                They use it blackmail the gods into spending more time with their kids because we can't be bad influences if you are here keeping an eye on your kids

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                                                                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sat 29 Mar 2025 08:42PM UTC

                                                                                  The demigods are very much enjoying themselves. They themselves have learned not to question what they do.

                                                                                  The Athena cabin is very happy and doubles down on their efforts. It may or may not lead to destroyed sleep schedules but hey they're getting praise!

                                                                                  Ooo some gods don't even need the blackmail they're just glad they have an excuse to ignore Zeus' shitty laws. I think because of it the cabins of those gods would be the ones that get along with their parents the most, since they know their divine parent only stayed away because they (the kids) would be punished or even killed if they (the parent) didn't follow the rules. The others are more reluctant to interact with their parents since said parents are really only doing this so Ody and Pen aren't bad influence.

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                                                                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 31 Mar 2025 09:57PM UTC

                                                                                    The demigod just live off of vibs, they feel like they should a thing and they do the thing and it makes them really happy but have no idea why. They don't question it though they just live off the dopamine rush.

                                                                                    Ody and Pen have to step in and remind the Athena cabin to takes breaks and their health is the more importin which makes all gooy because an adult cares about them

                                                                                    100% everyone knows which is which and the second group is getting pranked within the inch of their lives because the others wont let them get away with only caring now that Ody and Pen are around to be bad influences

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                                                                                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Wed 02 Apr 2025 07:17PM UTC

                                                                                      The camp worship The Vibes™ and somehow that worship creates a Vibes™ god. The baby god very much embodies their domain and the camp immediately adopts them.

                                                                                      Ody and Pen just have a cycle of having to interfere in every single cabin because the demigods are just too self-destructive and praise-chasing. Said demigods constantly go gooey and cuddly to the couple because the adults care!!!

                                                                                      Everyone knows by sight and the kids of those gods make SURE to make it look like Ody and Pen completely corrupted them. The gods cannot even stay a minute at camp without being made the victim of a borderline cruel "prank". They barely get the chance to talk to their kids before being chased out. The only ones given the chance are the ones who actually learn from their mistakes due to the pranks and try to actually know their kids and hang out with them.

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                                                                                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Wed 02 Apr 2025 10:43PM UTC

                                                                                        Any peace in camp disappears that day because the Vibes have always been chaotic and now their is baby god that embodies the Vibes and any normal behavior goes out the window. The camp wouldn't allow the older gods to meet the baby god because they are known for killing the vibe and don't want them to hurt the baby.

                                                                                        Pen and Ody are just happy that the cabins full into their self-destructive and praise-chasing ways at different times. They not sure what to do if the whole camp decided to go off the rail at the same time.

                                                                                        Everyone now knows the good gods from the bad ones. The ones that are labeled as bad are just banished form camp and any and all offering are stop being give to them. They are suffering from their mistakes and have to put in the work to make thing better but they have earn the right first and no one is really sure how they can do that since they messed up so badly.

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                                                                                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Thu 03 Apr 2025 11:56AM UTC

                                                                                          The older gods are super confused but the younger gods, who do not kill the Vibes, are allowed in and immediately taken with the baby godling. It becomes a big project and the camp is determined to raise this godling to become a really nice and relatable god and nothing like the stronger gods they've had to deal with.

                                                                                          Yea the couple can barely handle it when they're unlucky enough for two cabins to go into it at the same time, they're happy it doesn't have often and it's usually one cabin per time with a few weeks of peacefulness in-between.

                                                                                          The gods are so confused because they're used in getting away with their bad actions and can't process actual consequences. The good ones are just laughing at the bad gods and having fun finally getting to know their kids. Yea it'd be pretty unlikely any of the bad gods would even realise their error, let alone admit it, let alone try to fix it. The bad gods have allowed so many of their kids to die due to their negligence, nobody thinks they'll make up for it.

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                                                                                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Thu 03 Apr 2025 07:43PM UTC

                                                                                            Now I'm just imagining all the older gods being terrified after all the resent pranks the demigods started to scare them and whatever project they are working on just got the backing of a lot of the younger gods.

                                                                                            They younger gods are happy the demigod include them will hold it over the older gods head once the baby godling is is old enough for the demigod to fell comfortable letting them the older gods.

                                                                                            This the awake up the bad gods need because slowly they wrapping their head around the fact that they were wrong and actins do in fact have consequences, they might not be able to fix their mistakes but at lest they can start to learn from them

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                                                                                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Fri 04 Apr 2025 08:59PM UTC

                                                                                              Poseidon keeps trying to pester Percy into telling him what's going on but he's constantly stopped by Ody and Pen. The guy just has to retreat because he knows spending more than 5 minutes with Ody will cause him to fight the mortal and Percy wouldn't like that.

                                                                                              You know now that I'm thinking about it we haven't really explored Poseidon's and Ody's relationship. Like this time around they HAVE to get along despite their hatred for one another.

                                                                                              Yess the younger gods are absolutely loving this development. Not only is the godling really cute and really funny but things less than this have gotten lorded over people's heads for centuries and they're absolutely delighted at this ammunition.

                                                                                              The bad gods take a lot to change, but i imagine maybe some bad gods actually have the mental age of kids and they were just going along with what the older ones were doing + they're too mentally young to be a good parent. I think those gods would be more easily forgiven, though they'll never have a proper parental relationship with their kids. I think that discovery will lead Ody and Pen into trying to get some divine law that stops gods with young mental ages from having kids, both for the kids' sake but also because the couple is disgusted that some mortals did the naughty with what were clearly kids (i imagine those gods would take a young-looking appearance as well, to match their mental age) and they don't want anyone being manipulated and groomed even if they're gods.

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                                                                                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sat 05 Apr 2025 12:30AM UTC

                                                                                                Your right, we haven't really talk about that yet. I think Ody and Poseidon would be like a divorced couple that hate each but tries not to fight because it would upset their kid. They also respect each other but hates that fact so much. Ody can say that he is sort of happy that Percy is the son of Poseidon because he know have far the god would go for his kids. He still hates the god with every fiber of his being but is happy Percy has that sort of backing even if he will never admit it. The same could be said of Poseidon, he knows the how far Ody will go for his family and is happy his son has that sort of care but will never let anyone know. He will still smite Ody if he ever got the chance because the still hates that mortal.

                                                                                                They younger gods are living the best life, they get to hung out with their kids, a new baby god, and get a ammunition that could potentially last until the end of time.

                                                                                                That is just one more thing for the couple to fix. I imagine that bad god that are too mentally young to be a good parent would have a more sibling like relationship with their kids after they were forgiven. That is that the latest issue the couple has to fix when it comes the gods.

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                                                                                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sat 05 Apr 2025 08:40PM UTC

                                                                                                  Yess both of them are extremely protective and silently glad for that since they know at least the other will protect Percy if they're unable to. I think Ody would grow calm at finding out that Percy killed the Cyclops that killed Polites and Poseidon actually took Percy's side in the conflict. Like the main reason those two hated each other so much was due to the conflict with that one Cyclops. That has now been killed by the one person that's tying them together. It's genuinely an interesting dynamic for the thing that separated them to be destroyed by the thing that now unites them. I think Poseidon would absolutely hate Ody even after Gaia fell again because of the deal thing, but silently be glad the man and his wife stopped Percy from jumping into Tartarus. Maybe with the evil people Poseidon also grows more tolerant of Ody seeing the couple brutally murder so many people to find even just the smallest clue to where Percy is.

                                                                                                  Younger gods are adoring this since they also get to raise the godling right. Unlike how the older gods raised them. Also blackmail is great.

                                                                                                  Oo yea the demigods would find it weird at first but then take to their respective parent gods easily enough. The couple is tired of constantly fixing stuff in the divine world but dammit they're going to try to make the best world possible for these kids they're already attached...

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                                                                                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sat 05 Apr 2025 11:15PM UTC

                                                                                                    I love that so much but I like 80% sure that Percy didn't kill the Cyclops because he felt bad about it because they were both sons of Poseidon and that Cycops sort of reminded him of Tyson. I only bring it up because I kind of like the idea of that showing how much Ody and Percy are alike. That they went up the some enemies and both chose to spear them but were Ody was punished and was forced to be more ruthless, Percy wasn't. Even though Percy lived a harder live ( with gabe, being hunted by monsters, leading two war by the time he is 17) he wasn't forced to harden his heart the some way Ody was. I think that would bring Ody and Pen some comfort in knowing that their kid can still afford to kind even after everything. I also like the angsty aspect of Ody knowing that cyclops is still out there but is slowly recovering from the wound that he left it. Ya it is still blind but for how much longer, it already got some of its sight back. And all the regret that could come up because how many satyrs died because Ody didn't the cyclops and how many more people will die because Percy followed in his fathers footsteps.

                                                                                                    The younger gods finally get the chance to raise the next generation and they are determined not to make the same mistakes as their elders. The blackmail is just a plus.

                                                                                                    The couple doesn't regret getting attached to those kids but why does the godly world have so many issues they need to fix!! like come on, gods are been alive for thousands of years and like no one before them has tried to make things betters, is this ridiculous.

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                                                                                                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sun 06 Apr 2025 08:50PM UTC

                                                                                                      Ooo honestly probably, my memory is badddd. Yea Percy is still much like Ody reincarnation or not. And I'd imagine that this time around Pen would be the one going off on the adventure. She knows exactly who kept her husband from returning and before she had to stay in Ithaca, but now she has weapons that can actually kill monsters. Pen promptly takes off to kill the Cyclops in secret. Yea Ody is guilty that his actions ended up with more people hurt but Pen talks him out of that guilt.

                                                                                                      Younger gods just decide to maybe try therapy like the demigods because they're scared of messing up the godling.

                                                                                                      The couple is the only one with the energy, power and will to change stuff around. Everyone is mostly going along with it (they have no choice) with the camp, especially Chiron, cheering them on.

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                                                                                                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 07 Apr 2025 09:08PM UTC

                                                                                                        Just on the way to kill Calypso Pen stops at the places the held her husband up to take care of them. She stops by to kill the Cyclops before Apollo shows up and the two get to talk to CC, because she did try to sleep with Ody and turned Percy into a genpig.

                                                                                                         

                                                                                                        Everyone is happy for the younger gods because they 100% need that therapy. They have been throw a lot of shit because of the older gods and don't want to do the some for the new godling.

                                                                                                        Chiron is just so happy to see things change for the better, he is cheering everyone one but will tattle to couple of someone isn't putting in the work to change

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                                                                                                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Wed 09 Apr 2025 10:09AM UTC

                                                                                                          Pen has many grievances with Aeolus but she's hold it off for now since they're a god. That doesn't mean they'll be left alone. Yea Pen is a girlboss and kills the Cyclops in a couple hours, then also the carnivorous sheep (they scare me).

                                                                                                          Oo yea, i think that would be more of a intervention than anything else. Apollo is a protector of youth and Pen was a woman in the old times, they know how dangerous men can be and how far you sometimes need to go to protect women against them. It wouldn't be a fight, more of a passive aggressive powerpoint presentation that slowly softens up, since at the end of the day CC was doing the best she could. She just lost her reasoning when she continued to lure men in and transform them through the ages. I think CC would take it a bit, since although she doesn't know these people she did trust Pen's husband and Apollo is the twin of Artemis, who is basically the goddess CC thinks the best of. I think her business would shift into protecting the nymphs more than luring men in afterwards, like how it was in EPIC. It felt like it lost that sense in PJ.

                                                                                                          Yess Chiron is mildly (extremely) traumatized and was stuck in a loop of barely being able to do anything due to the desensitisation. Now that the couple is here the three are basically best friends, Chiron is amazing at what he does and he does genuinely want to see the kids safe. He tries his very best at helping change the divine world, he really just needed that push.

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                                                                                                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Wed 09 Apr 2025 07:29PM UTC

                                                                                                            Just Pen sending passive aggressive pries to Aeolus so the god knows that they are on her shit list.

                                                                                                            100%, I think that would would CC a lot. They would give a small therapy season along with the intervention and set her up with resources to get more therapy once they leave.

                                                                                                            ya he really need someone to show him that thing could get better because before the couple I think things only changed for the worst and Chiron was just trying to keep things at least decent.

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                                                                                                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Fri 11 Apr 2025 10:58PM UTC

                                                                                                              Aeolus is a silly little bean though and they're just waiting excitedly because they very much want to fight Pen

                                                                                                              Yess CC and her nymphs 100% need therapy but they're so isolated it's nearly impossible. They figure it out somehow and get much better. CC is really glad for it because even if she's unsure about this whole thing herself, her nymphs seem to be getting better and happier and that's all she wants.

                                                                                                              Chiron desperately needs therapy, because although he's a centaur i don't think a lot of people have thought about how would a mortal brain with clear breaking points and limits deal with immortality. I think he internalised a lot of stuff in order to remain mostly sane, and one of those basically turned him into an observer. Constantly there and training kids, yet unable to intervene when they truly need it. He just internalised that helplessness and basically just 'looked away' from the situation, ignored it by conditioning himself to think it can't be changed much. Then the couple came along, and Chiron is really happy because they're his friends and are doing so good, but it's also unintentionally breaking something in him to be confronted by the fact that he could've always done something to change the divine world, even if he remained inactive to stay sane.

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          3. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Wed 12 Mar 2025 10:32PM UTC

            I think since Ody and Pen never made a deal with Gaia they would dip anytime they want. They just agreed to work with her but they didn't get anything for that help because they already found their son before they agreed and they never asked to be taken away, Gaia did that on their own. So maybe Gaia is trying to trap them in a deal by offering them different things like to give Percy back his memories of being Tel, or to turn Percy back into a kid so that Ody would have a chance to see his kid grow up but they never take it back they know stuff from a god always come with a price.

            It might be tempting and they might talk about it and might even consider it but that is before they get the whole story and after they do they leave but they can't stop thinking about the what ifs.

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            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Thu 13 Mar 2025 07:07AM UTC

              Aww yes!! I think that'd really hit them hard, both offers. Having Tel truly back or Ody getting to see his child grow up. But at the end of the day they're smart people!!!!!

              And yea Gaia trying to trap them in a deal makes sense, maybe by trying to make Percy seem different from Tel so they take the first offer, or trying to make Percy seem very very traumatised so they take the second offer and Percy gets a fresh start.

              Poor Ody and Pen💔 yea they don't want to work for Gaia anymore, but they'll definitely grieve the possibilities of getting Tel back before the underworld/Ody getting to raise his son, but i think upon seeing how happy Percy is they'll let it go more or less.

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              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Thu 13 Mar 2025 10:40PM UTC

                It think them seeing Percy happy and getting to see baby photo from Sally would let them move on easier, some night they would still lay awake at night wondering about the what if but they are happy with what they chose

                Now, I'm just thinking about what if Ody and Pen failed to save Percy from Falling and they make a deal with Gaia, like save our son and we will help you, but Percy and Annabeth make it out of the pit without Gaia's help and to compet the deal she turns Percy into a kid/baby, getting rid of all his memories from before that age to save him from the trauma of the pit since she could save him from the pit itself

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                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Fri 14 Mar 2025 07:04AM UTC

                  aww yea they'd definitely grieve the opportunity. But i think when the three of them return to the underworld and Percy remembers and they actually talk about it, Percy/Tel would thank Ody and Pen for not going along with it. He knows what he wants even when he remembers his past life.

                  That idea is SO GOOD !! Ody and Pen find him and are initially surprised but quickly melt at the sight of their child turned baby enhanced by god beauty. Shit would definitely go down though, since Percy won't be able to meditate the two sides, Ody and Pen won't know about the suffering the demigods will go through under Gaia and Grover n the others won't know Ody and Pen genuinely care and want to help Percy. Poseidon would get really freaking angry though sjdhdjsh

                  Pen walking Ody Through all the typical baby steps and routine because Ody never learned. He cries nearly every day for the first few weeks because this time he can actually raise his boy like he always wanted. Gaia is happy because not longer has she essentially gotten rid of a powerful demigod and one of the 7 the prophecy talked about, but Ody and Pen are even more emotional and easy to manipulate, plus they're actually in a deal with her now.

                  Annabeth will be UPSET. Even if her relationship with Percy isn't the most healthy they're close friends and literally just survived Tartarus together. I think she'd be confused on why Odysseus of all people is helping Gaia, and try to reason with him as Both being chosens of Athena.

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                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Fri 14 Mar 2025 08:16PM UTC

                    Just Percy/Tel telling his parent that he was proud of them for not falling for Gaia tricks and getting tripped in a deal

                    After Ody after over is fear of accidently breaking Percy if he held him, he would never set Percy down

                    But just imagine the crack if Gaia wasn't able to change Percy power leave, so ya Percy's a baby but he is still the one of the most power demigods and his powers respond to his emotions and again he is baby

                    So just Grover finding the couple goes to take baby Percy away so he could take him to safety and find a way to undo this and baby Percy is happy to see Grover but even is happy to go with him until he noticed that he is no longer with his parents and boom instant hurricane, the couple come running Percy sees his parents and it stops. The couple tires to get away from Grover again instant hurricane and Grover, Ody and Pen are stuck traveling together because if they don't up set over powered baby that can effect the weather

                    Annabeth would be feeling a lot of emptions, and would probably free cheated too, like in this point in time her happy ending is with Percy and she can't imagine one without him and her all her dreams of a future went up in smoke bc he is a baby now. She went though all this stuff with him and it doesn't even matter anymore bc he is baby and doesn't remember. She would feel so betrayed by Ody, I think he would be an exmple for Athena kids, like her telling all her kids that she expected them to do something better then him, since while she trained him, they are her kids and should be able to do better since they have an advantage of being her kids and have the person she looked up too, the person her mother holds the stander for by working for Gaia would crush her.

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                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sat 15 Mar 2025 07:36AM UTC

                      HAHAHA Grover gets stuck with Ody and Pen. The couple themselves are upset sure but they wouldn't know about the link n all that stuff since Gaia would only show them in an effort to get them to manipulate Percy for her, and that's not needed in this situation.

                      Ody and Pen would just grow fond of Grover slowly, since at the end of the day this is a CHILD, one who tried to go against them and Gaia herself to protect Percy. They become protective of him upon hearing about his adventures with Percy, since i think Grover is smart but he gets nervous quickly and eventually he'd let some things slip. The couple wouldn't be much upset about the link since they get background info this time and they just feel angry at the gods for putting their son and his best friend in the situation to begin with.

                      Percy is just happy that three of his favourite people are starting to get along. Now if only the rest of his favourite people would appear as well! But yea, i think Grover would be needed for this, since Ody and Pen would have zero clue how to care for a demigod, much less one as powerful as Percy. Grover would be able to fill in the gaps of information to keep Percy as safe as possible. I think, though, that at the end of the day Percy is one of the 7; and everyone knows you can't avoid a prophecy. Maybe Gaia's magic is a bit more weak than usual, and Percy ages faster than normal. It'd be slow at first and then build up, which is why Ody and Pen didn't notice until they had Grover along the ride. Either way, Percy will eventually return back to his original age, since prophecies can't be avoided. But maybe his mind takes longer to catch up, which leads to an overly affectionate and happy-go-lucky Percy aha~

                      Yea, babies are already pretty destructive, now imagine a super powered one at that~ Grover would pull out all of the tricks satyr use to care for their young on Percy and Ody and Pen would take all of the stories/tricks they heard from Hermes or other gods that used to be friendly towards them n were also parents, all just to control Percy and keep him happy. Still we're talking about an adorable, destructive baby so Percy would still end up spoiled aha~ (not that he wouldn't end up spoiled without his powers, with Ody as a father he'd spoil Percy to bits either way to compensate his lack of presence in Tel's childhood.)

                      Yea Annabeth would definitely feel robbed. She spent her whole life since finding out about the gods trying to earn Athena's approval, being told to be more like Odysseus, and then that exact man goes against the gods and works with Gaia, who is an active risk to demigods. She'd feel robbed of a role model, but i think what would hit her more is that she is lost now; there's no role model to turn to, no clear way to gain her mother's approval. Before, she had Odysseus to replicate, but now she has nothing. And now Athena's approval and motherly affection is even further away.

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                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sun 16 Mar 2025 06:09AM UTC

                        Grover would the one to clear up the misunderstanding and be the first person to get the full story and his focuses would shift from trying to get Percy away from them some how to how to get the couple out of their deal with Gaia.

                        I always thought that Percy and Annabeth's role in the Prophecy was over after they closed the door of deaths for a few reason, 1) I don't think they were supposed to be part of the seven to begin with. Percy was forced into it, he didn't want to be a part of anther quest but he didn't have an option to say no and I took the line "seven demigod answer the call" meaning that they had to choose to be their and out of everyone I think that Percy was the person who was forced into this the most. And Annabeth had her own quest with the mark of Athena, she had something else to do and i felt like she was just their for the ride. I think them falling into the pit was fate trying to get them off the boat, like they weren't suppose to be their so they fell to get them away from the rest of the seven and it was just by chance that was helpful 2) I don't think that Annabeth or Percy have a pov after they get out of the pit, to mean it sort of felt like they shouldn't have been their anymore, like they did their part and should have gone home 3) I think Nico and Renay fight better demigod that answered the call, Renay because called for help and answered and Nico because he asked to the other to the house of hades and he answered 4) It never said that they all seven demigod had to be their for the whole quest just that they had to start with seven not with seven

                        Gaia magic could have been week and Percy could grow up faster and he could rejoin the fight, or he would be left a baby for a while and only reages after everything is over. I think it would be really funny if Grover took baby Percy, Ody and Pen to camp but Gaia pop up and the strom that baby Percy makes over being waken up from a nap is the strom that makes Gaia falls

                        Annabeth would be questioning her whole live, and just be having a really bad time in gernal because everything bad is happen in such a short time frame, she hasn't gotten a break

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                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sun 16 Mar 2025 06:56AM UTC

                          Yess Grover is once again the best!!! I think after that he'd grow more relaxed around Ody and Pen, because he doesn't need to convince them to leave Gaia, he needs to find a loophole around the deal. So i think from this point on Grover would talk a lot more and tell the couple all the stories he was there for, and basically just give them what he knows about Percy since he doesn't know about the reincarnation, but he knows people grow attached to the babies they've been caring for!

                          Ooo, yea, fate has always been tricky~ Maybe it would be Ody and Pen to think about that option when they hear the prophecy somehow. They just freeze and grow terrified for their child and his friends, and would try even more to get out of Gaia's deal. They know prophecies have different meanings and they're hoping the one they reached isn't true and a misinterpretation, because otherwise their journey is a lot more dangerous.

                          HAHAHA Baby Percy throwing a tantrum at just the right moment! Yea, i feel like they're gonna get to camp as soon as possible, because if Percy has his powers then he has his scent and that's not good right now. Ody and Pen can defeat monsters and run circles around them, and Grover with his nose can spot/notice them, but the group doesn't have any celestial bronze (asides from riptide in pen form, which only Percy can switch, and baby Percy won't...), so it's always a risk to deal with any of the monsters. They go to camp to be safe from the monsters, and Grover presente their case and somehow they get to stay. Now Ody and Pen have to deal with their super powered baby but also a camp of child soldiers who do not look fondly upon them.

                          Poor Annabeth needs a really long break~ Sadly, war doesn't typically allow them.

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                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sun 16 Mar 2025 07:58AM UTC

                            Grover really is just cleaning up other people messes. He is just happy the couple isn't all that bad, he thinks its cute they care so much about Percy and how Ody insisted on being the one to hold Percy the most.

                            They would be worried, epically when Grover tells about all of Percy misadventures because it seems like the fates hate him. It doesn't help that Percy has seen the Fates but a string, it might not have been his but it is still not a good sign for longevity

                            The camp just giving the couple the cold shoulder because they are the reason their leading is baby, they are the reason one of their best fights is out of the fight, they are the reason their main protector is not able to protect them. Turns out they didn't need to worry all that much because baby Percy is still a power house and end up dealing with the problem for them.

                            Imagine the Stolls baby sitting, the chaos they would bring with baby Percy to bail them out. Who could say no to that baby face and even if they could, they couldn't be yelled out while holding the baby bc that would scary Percy and instant hurricane or earthquake

                            Annabeth wont be getting her break until after the war and then she would have even more stuff to deal with

                            Ya, she wont be getting that break until much latter and with more stuff to recover from

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                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sun 16 Mar 2025 04:05PM UTC

                              Grover was initially suspicious but now just gives Percy to Ody when he starts looking at the baby with puppy eyes. Maybe it passes over to Grover and the protectiveness the couple feel for him, whenever they have to pass over some kind of tile or floor that's uncomfortable to Grover's hooves Ody just picks him up and carry him without saying anything.

                              Yess Everyone is scared because they remember how bad Kronos was - and they only won thanks to Percy - and they know Gaia is even worse. They weren't confident in their chances even with Percy, now it's even worse without him. Well, at least until they find out his powers are the same, and they've got Ody and Pen on their side (kind of) as well.

                              Haha the Stolls wouldn't even try to say no, nor would they want to. They cheer Percy on and make him even more chaotic and they use him as a shield against lectures.

                              As a little relief/treat for Annabeth, i think she'd get a break with Ody. Once everyone calmed down and understood Ody and Pen aren't the enemy, i think Annabeth would feel conflicted. Because her role model is not only here, a present representation of everything Annabeth failed to become/achieve, but also his past actions with Gaia kind of broke the illusion of 'Athena's perfect champion' all of the Athena kids had. Ody would see himself in Annabeth a bit, and pity her for having Athena as a mother. He'd feel bad seeing Annabeth try to gain Athena's approval and befriend her. In this version i think she'd be the one to introduce Ody to modern stuff and help him through it. They'd quickly grow fond of each other and i think Annabeth would start seeing Ody as a kind of Uncle figure, and start to turn to him for approval instead of Athena. It would certainly help her worsening mental health, though she'd still be crushed at Percy being a baby.

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                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 17 Mar 2025 04:08AM UTC

                                Grover not knowing that he has been adopted until he is being carried over some cattle greats. He would probably just accept the fact he was adopted because that isn't wouldn't be the weirdest thing to happen to him.

                                People would try to keep Percy way from the Stolls to keep the chaos to a minum but sadly they were great with kids and they couldn't turn that kind of help away.

                                I think Ody would end up adopted the whole Athena cabin because he knows how Athena is would feel for them. I image that he could tell everyone that he also had a rocky realtionship with the goddess and it wasn't all sun shine and rainbows like the goddess would like to show it as.

                                What if baby Percy was afraid of Annabeth, or just didn't like her all that much. Like she was just giving a sort of feral vibe of i'm so done with this shit, it will stab you if you look at me and Baby Percy just crying around her, making her heart break even more

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                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Mon 17 Mar 2025 08:16PM UTC

                                  Aha Grover just has that epiphany and immediately accepts it WHILE Ody is carrying him across. He knows he can't do anything about it and just accepts the help + all the little parental acts they've been doing that so far he has refused. Ody and Pen are observant so they realise he's accepted it and just ramp up their parental-ness.

                                  The Stolls learned to be great babysitters so they had a cute face to hide behind whenever they caused chaos.

                                  Yess Ody just decides to take a page out of Gaia's book and slowly manipulate (with good intentions) all the Athena Kids into not caring about their mom anymore through acts of affection. He reasons that Athena means well but most of the gods are lowkey shitty parents and it's best their kids don't seek out their approval like all of the athena kids do.

                                  Aww poor Annabeth :( Percy would only stop being scared of her when he sees her feral vibe turn on maybe someone who tried to hurt Percy. And now Percy just thinks of Annabeth as a cool aunt/attack dog and likes her now.

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                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 17 Mar 2025 10:04PM UTC

                                    They are ready to parental the hell out of their new child now that he accepted them as his new parents.

                                    That plan never failed them.

                                    Ody makes sure that the Athena kids know their worth and that nothing can take worth as person away. He makes sure they all know that getting their mothers approval isn't all its cracked up to be and that the kids know that their are other people around that are already proud of them.

                                    After Percy sees Annabeth protect him she becomes on of his favorite people and she feels so much better.

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                                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Tue 18 Mar 2025 07:12AM UTC

                                      Ody and Pen are amazing are parenting the hell out of children due to Tel. Grover is quickly being spoiled, comforted and protected and he's just confused as hell how everything changed in just a few days. Well, at least he doesn't have to deal with the council of elders now!

                                      Grover lets it slip about the satyrs' thing with Pan and the couple is confused and quickly grow horrified and learning so many satyrs died just to find a single god. Grover then lets it slip that *he* also went out to find Pan with the mental age of 12. Ody and Pen are really concerned at the level of devotion the satyr not only have, but cultivate in their young aswell almost like a cult. They subtly grill Grover for more information and try to push him into less devotion to Pan because they don't know what happened to Pan, only that the satyrs are weirdly devoted to him and that makes the couple heavily uncomfortable. Ody and Pen do NOT like that their new child is so devoted to an unknown god.

                                      Yes The Stolls are wonderful babysitters and when they're too tired to make any pranks they ramp up to the number 1 most desired babysitters at camp. Sadly that doesn't happen often..

                                      Ody subtly giving all of the Athena cabin therapy and talks about approval. He manages to get them all away from Athena (who isn't sure how to feel about the whole situation. She's still unsure how to feel about her old friend having been revived), but it just leads to the whole cabin looking up at him for affection and the approval they craved. Luckily Ody is very good at showing approval to the kids.

                                      Annabeth just loses all romantic feelings towards Percy from then on. She didn't have romantic feelings towards Baby Percy anyways but now if he were to turn back to his normal form she wouldn't want to date him anyways. The whole experience made her realise they're better off as friends, and it lightens her mood and mental health A LOT. Annabeth becomes Percy's preferred babysitter to aquariums and such because she's smart and rattles off information about the sea life which Percy adores.

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                                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Tue 18 Mar 2025 09:14PM UTC

                                        To be honest I'm just imaging that Pen and Ody wanted a big family but never had the chance sine Ody had to go to war and was gone for 20 years and now they can live their dream of having a big family by adopting every child they come across, either by accident or with full knowledge of what they are doing.

                                        That sound like a mess, I don't see any satyrs taking that well much less Grover. They would take it better now that they have they know that Pan is gone and they have to look out for themselves but I still don't see anyone of them taking disrespect towards Pan well.

                                        Some times camp just has to bit the bullet and take the extra pranks because sadly the Stolls were the best option at the time. The kids always dempend to be put in the Stolls care but they are the funnest people to be babysat by.

                                        I think Annabeth would most romantic feeling toward Percy when she realized he was afraid of her. It would make her question their relationship because baby Percy would love Miss O' Leery and show no fear to a hellhound and she would have to question what she was doing wrong if she was scarier than a hellhound. I think she would think back and realize their relationship wasn't the healthiest and then lose the rest of her romantic feelings when she has a chance to bond with baby Percy

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                                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Wed 19 Mar 2025 07:29AM UTC

                                          Yesss. Ody and Pen are just vibing with their new child and reincarnated son that turned baby. They're loving this, really, and they don't even have to worry about Percy's relationship with Grover like couples who adopt yet have bio kids have, Percy and Grover are already best friends! They definitely plan on taking more children. It's not like those kids have a stable parent anyways.

                                          Yupp Grover definitely wouldn't take kindly to it, and that would just worry Ody and Pen even more. I think after so long the satyrs HAVE indeed turned Pan into some messiah due to their hatred towards those who pollute the environment yet have the inability to do anything against them. Ody and Pen would understand that disrespecting Pan is a big no-no, so now they just try to gently push Grover into a less devoted mindset.

                                          The Stolls absolutely adore it because they like to hide it but both of them do like kids genuinely. It's what makes them such great babysitters.

                                          Yess Annabeth and Percy just sorta become like siblings, and Annabeth becomes the couple's go-to babysitter when neither they or Grover are available. Annabeth is just glad and silently and hesitantly sees Percy turning into a babe as a good thing since it was basically fixed so many things, though she's still worried about Gaia and her deal with Ody and Pen.

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                                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Wed 19 Mar 2025 08:01PM UTC

                                            I love the Ody and Pen are just vibing, Percy is baby so he is just chilling, and their is Grover is kind of confused but just going with the flow. To be fair the couple will probably be the best thing to happen to their new kids or at lest the first good thing to happen to them in while.

                                            100%, the differently turn Pan into some larger than live figure even compared to other gods. The first test of Ody and Pen after coming back to life is parenting is how to gently get their new child out of a cult

                                            I can't remember if the Stolls are year rounds or not but now I can see them making extra money as babysitters in the mortal world or even going into child care when they are older

                                            Annabeth and Percy would be perfect as siblings, and she would love spending time her knew baby brother. Back to the mix emotions because Annabeth doesn't want to see this as a good thing because that feels like betraying Percy so how because he didn't get a choice about any of this but is hard not too the see the good things this brought about. Some people may have forget the deal but Annabeth hasn't and she is worried that all the good that got brought into her life is about to disappear

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                                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Thu 20 Mar 2025 07:08AM UTC

                                              Half of Ody and Pen's adopted kids initially saw them as angels due to past experiences. Grover is still confused but willing to help take care of these traumatized children, who definitely get extremely attached to the couple, Grover and Percy.

                                              Ody and Pen thinking they're gonna have an easy time raising Grover now and then they just realise their new child is basically at the *heart* of a cult. They have a lot of work ahead.

                                              That so cute!! Maybe they open a daycare to also try and find demigods that are too young to go to camp, just to keep an eye on them and keep them alive. They'd be considered the best babysitters in the region despite their young ages.

                                              Yea poor Annabeth, she has a lot of feelings to work through :( i think she'd start feeling less guilty if Percy started calling her big sister or something, and maybe she goes to the couple who assure her it's fine to not be in love anymore. She's still worried about the deal obviously, and i think she'd spoil Percy a lot whenever she babysits because of it.

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                                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Fri 21 Mar 2025 01:13AM UTC

                                                Just Ody and Pen happy they finally get to have the big family they always wanted, their adopted kids are happy that they finally get caring parents, and their is Grover how is now a big brother to so many kids and is confused on how his live turned out this way but wouldn't trade it for the world.

                                                The couple realize how fucked the godly world is because of Grover, they thought it was just the demigods that had it bad but then they learn that the satyr have cult and their new child is at the center of it. At least their demigod kids don't want to be child solders

                                                Percy would deff think of Percy as a older sister and give her some kind of nickname that would make her hurt melt. The couple would deff try to help her though her emotions and tell her that his ok to move on. I think they would also try and tell her that the deal was there problem to worry about not hers but it doesn't help she is still worried about it. Annabeth would also try to insure her spot as Percy's favorite sister, she knows that Grover will take the spot for favorite over all sibling but she can claim favorite sister

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                                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Fri 21 Mar 2025 07:35AM UTC

                                                  Grover is literally the representation of 'ride the wave or die'. Dude is just vibing with everything, despite the ongoing confusion. The couple is happy their first adopted child is so chill with the whole situation.

                                                  Yess Ody and Pen would lose it at finding out that Grover's whole life goal was going out at 12 and looking for a GOD despite knowing that NO ONE has survived the search. They lose it even more finding out the tree nymphs run so freaking fast so they escape the gods' lust. Everything is just messed up for them, and they're determined to change it, starting with getting Grover out of that damned cult.

                                                  Percy just decides one day to call Annabeth 'Anny' and he has not said her full name since. The couple try to reassure Annabeth but they themselves know it's hard not to think about it. They're still finding loopholes in the contract, they've already found many for their escape but they want one where they escape and Percy stays baby. Ahha yea Annabeth would try really hard but even if she didn't she'd still be Percy's favorite sister and second favourite sibling overall.

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                                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Fri 21 Mar 2025 08:32PM UTC

                                                    Just Ody and Pen questioning if they should go back to Gaia because it everything seems so fucked up and sometimes it just better to start from scratch. But they remember that Gaia is the worst option and just start making power points.

                                                    They only person allowed to call Annabeth 'Anny" is Percy, anyone else will be stabbed. I think the couple would share some the loopholes they come up with, with Annabeth to show that they have a plan and that she doesn't need to worry.

                                                    I just realized that we never talked about Sally with baby Percy. Does she knew that her son was turned into a baby? Does the camp just tell her that Percy was dead because in a way the old Percy is dead. Does she find out and fight for custody, does anyone even think to tell her because it seems like that could be something that is easily forgotten when they have all the chaos going on.

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                                                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sat 22 Mar 2025 07:30AM UTC

                                                      The PowerPoints 😂 It's just a stream of a bunch of powerpoints. Ody and Pen have to constantly hunt down whoever they're meant for. I think they'd become even more pissed off upon finding out Hera is the reason monsters can smell demigods.

                                                      Definitely. Only Percy has 'Anny' rights and he makes sure everyone knows it. Annabeth relaxes at seeing the loopholes because if they've found so many by now then they probably will manage to find one to keep Percy a baby.

                                                      Sally!!!!!! She's too respected for that. I think since Grover was the first to come in contact with Ody and Pen, literally the day after they get to camp he's doing a trip to Sally's to tell her. He respects Sally too much to not do it. I think Sally would be split because she is pissed that these guys decided to just revert her child into a baby, but also she remembers how adorable baby Percy was and at least this time he is not in danger. When Sally and the couple meet Sally just takens Percy (maybe he has been crying for hours) and Percy immediately calms down. Ody and Pen are amazed by Sally's abilities and they talk shit out in Sally's apartment. I think this time around they'd be good friends IMMEDIATELY since Ody and Pen are thankful and Sally just told them about Gabe but also about demigod scents (something i think didn't happen yet in the couple's time), so Sally didn't really have much of a choice. They become the best parents to Percy together.

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                                                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sun 23 Mar 2025 05:11AM UTC

                                                        Everyone is impressed on how well made the PowerPoints are because of not only are some of the most well made powerpoints ever seen the people who made them literally from ancient Greece thousands of years before electricity was made.

                                                        After a while they can't help but curse who ever taught the couple how to use the computer because of how many times they were chanced down to and forced to watch them. No one is save from the powerpoints, not even Hera. She got a powerpoint on how stupid it was for her to cause monsters to smell demigods and what the couple would do to her if she didn't udo it and let the demigod live in peace.

                                                        Sally might be upset but she is sort of grateful that her son is finally has a chance to have a good childhood. She tired her best but knows that smell gabe messed them both up.

                                                        I think Ody and Pen would end up having more custody over Percy this time around bc it would be saver for everyone if Percy stayed at came. Percy would be save from monsters and his powers would be less of on issue out in nature v.s in a city. Sally would still get to see Percy and be part of his live but not his main provider. After Percy is a little older and those are no longer concerns they become more equal in custody.

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                                                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sun 23 Mar 2025 08:23AM UTC

                                                          Ody and Pen start losing their title as epic heroes from a legendary book and start becoming the Powerpoint gods.

                                                          Aha Hera just being chased down and threatened by two mortals😂. If i recall correctly, the scent thing is from Hecate (?) and only leaves if Hera feels guilty about something (?), so she explains it to them that she can't just turn it off. It just leads to an even better put PowerPoint who's whole aim is guilt tripping the fuck out of Hera.

                                                          Yess Sally is a objective queen! She gave Percy the best childhood he could've had given the circumstances but she understands the best wasn't necessarily good. She's just glad he gets an actually good one this time.

                                                          Yea, i think Sally would be the one to suggest it actually. She dealt with Percy as he grew, she knows how many monsters his scent draws in. Ody and Pen accept it, but of course Sally isn't gonna stop seeing her baby just because of that! So she teaches Ody and Pen the wonders of demigod phones and video calls. The couple are surprised a child designed these specialised phones, and bully Chiron into installing internet at camp. Everyone is super happy and Ody and Pen facetime Sally nearly every day both because Sally has become a great friend to them, she gives really good advice, and Percy gets happy when he sees her.

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                                                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sun 23 Mar 2025 10:24PM UTC

                                                            They are both more respected and fear than when they were heroes

                                                            She has no idea how this happen and but she sort of fears the two of them, not that she will let anyone know that. I have no idea how the sent thing works, I have only read up like the first two books of trails of Apollo and fully thought you were making up the sent thing and went with it. Their is no way Ody and Pen are leaving Hera alone until the sent issue goes away.

                                                            Sally just being the person to teach the couple how to use tec, including the powerpoints. The three of them are the best of friends and are the best co parents.

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                                                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Mon 24 Mar 2025 07:34AM UTC

                                                              I did a quick google search and found out that the scent thing wasn't real 😂 I just saw it on a really good fanfic once and forgot it wasn't canon. My bad :-))

                                                              But! According to google the scent thing is not because of 'demigods' but because of negativity?? Monsters apparently came from the pandora box, and are attracted to negativity because they are negativity too. Demigods have stronger negativity because of ??? + It's why they get found easily when they reach puberty :)) since that makes more negativity.

                                                              Ody and Pen would find that out and just make a long PowerPoint to Olympus on why Therapy should be mandatary. Everyone in camp is already in therapy but this is just so it's mandatory for the next generations too. Maybe Percy doesn't have a scent then? His happiness with how everything is going is so big it overpowers the baseline negativity of demigods. Everyone is confused when they realise the strongest demigod alive just. Doesn't attract monsters.

                                                              Yess Sally the queen showing Ody and Pen the way of powerpoints. I think Ody would adore those online classes and take them anytime he's free. Pen would just browse recipe sites and check out what people are saying about her and her husband since they think the couple are myths. Pen would definitely hunt down anyone who tries to say that Ody wanted what Calypso did.

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                                                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 24 Mar 2025 07:51PM UTC

                                                                It happens to the best of us lol, I deff been their before.

                                                                I kind of hate the reason. I feel with that reason it doesn't make senses for Sally to marry smell gade. It would have been easier for Sally to keep Percy save by keeping him happy than to marry gabe because he just brought negativity to their lives. I know that smelly gade was supposed to smell so bad that it would cover up Percy but in this context I can only think of the misery gabe brough making Percy's smell stronger and easier for monsters to find. I think Poseidon had to explain how the godly world to Sally including how monster for her to even think of marring smelly gabe.

                                                                I always thought the monster could just sense the godly blood that demigods had and that it tasted better or had some kind of additive property to it so the the monsters would seek them out more over regular people. And the stronger the demigod the more godly blood they had making it easy for the monster to find them and giving the monster more motivation to find them.

                                                                I also really like the idea that it was the gods fault in order for someone to learn a lesson because their is hope for it all to end and it also shows that a lot of gods just think of demigods of tools or means to an end. Their is so much that could be done with that idea.

                                                                That would deff give the other demigods hope for the future once they realized the reason.

                                                                After everyone finds out that Sally was the one to teach Pen and Ody the way of powerpoints they stop cursing the who taught the two how to make powerpoints. They might be little upset about being chased down and subjected to the powerpoints but they respect Sally too much. Pen would say that she had something to take care of and disappear for a few day to take care of those people and pop back up with a sword covered in blood. Everyone is only mildly concerned because they know the person had it coming.

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                                                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Tue 25 Mar 2025 07:35AM UTC

                                                                  Truee, i mean Demigods tend to have more bad lives but there are A LOT more mortals than demigods, and undoubtly a lot of mortals have really bad lives too. It wouldn't make sense for monsters to chase demigods when mortals sometimes feed them more and also can't fight back.

                                                                  Plus i mean it's not like we can't continue talking about the fanfic idea here. Cannon is a sandbox and that little bit can just be... Ignored.

                                                                  Yup!!! I don't remember exactly how it was described in the fic, but from what i recall, more or less Hera got mad for ??? And cursed one (or multiple?) of Hecate's children, causing said child(ren) to die. Hecate got mad and she cursed every demigod child to be smelled by monsters so 'Hera can feel her pain'. Of course Hera doesn't have demigod children and she's a sociopath so......

                                                                  I think it'd be kind of bittersweet if the kids found out why monsters can smell them. Like they know it's probably not going to change since it relies of Hera having basic sympathy, but they can't help but hope because it's just so *easy* to deactivate the curse. Just a bit of guilt or regret from Hera and it's over!!

                                                                  Yess Sally is a queen in the divine world. And even if someone doesn't think so they still respect her because they know they'll be chased if they don't. Pen is a girlboss and the ultimate husband protector ❤️ She'd be extra affectionate with Ody, maybe not physically but in the more verbal sense and reminding him a lot that what happened with Calypso wasn't his fault. Pen is a licensed therapist now she knows how much it'll affect/hurt Ody if/when he finds out about what people online say of him and Calypso. She's determined to keep him from falling down that rabbit hole of guilt and self-blame but she knows he'll come across it eventually.

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                                                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Tue 25 Mar 2025 11:27PM UTC

                                                                    In my head the reason that Demeter kids don't have to worry as much about monster is because Demeter would make the monsters pay for killing her kids. Like she can't interfere but she can get revenge for her kids death and like she is the goddess of the earth, i think any monster on the land would have a tuff time running from her rath. So Demeter kids are mostly trained on how to fight flying/water monsters since those are what would attack them the most since they have the lest to fear about pissing Demeter off. They are still some land monsters that try but those are far less common

                                                                    I can totally see the camp trying to get Ares cabin to guilt trip Hera be having them call her grandma. They will probably have the best luck making Hera guilty because as far as i know Ares never married and he is her son making her their grandkids that she might care about.

                                                                    She is the best protector that finally has the best tools possible to to make sure that her husband is as ok as he can be. I can see her talking to Hermes to make it harder for Ody to come across stuff about Calypso while on the internet.

                                                                    OO, how bad do you think the couple would take finding out that Percy ended up on the island with Calypso and that Leo wanted to and maybe even freed her

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                                                                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Wed 26 Mar 2025 07:14AM UTC

                                                                      Demeter kids have special privileges and they're smart enough to treasure them

                                                                      Oooo yea since Ares is perhaps one of the closet to Hera that's a child, that'd definitely get her to feel *something*, at least. The ares cabin is disgusted with themselves for doing this but they understand it's for everyone.

                                                                      Pen is the best protector hands down !! And now that the culture doesn't chain down woman it very much shows. Yea Pen would be conspiring with all she gods she can into making sure Ody does not find the stuff about Calypso. Though the internet is unfortunately very big and there's no 'god of the internet', so against Pen's efforts Ody does come across it. it just leads to a rabbit hole where he's just automatically searching for more (and finding more!) while feeling all those emotions he had at the island/cliff stirr up. Poor Ody is just going down a self-destructive rabbit hole.

                                                                      OOOO!!!!! Ody and Pen definitely wouldn't take that well. Ody would be horrified and probably have a panic attack at the thought of his son suffering the same way he did. Pen would be pissed tf off that Calypso got her slimy hands on both her boys. When they're told that Percy wasn't sexually abused like Ody while on the island they don't calm down simply because they don't believe it. It wouldn't make sense. The couple (more specifically Pen because Ody is just dissociating in this probably) just sit Percy down and give him a talk about Calypso and it's not okay for someone to touch you even when you say no! Percy tells them that Calypso didn't touch him and the couple only think that either Percy is in denial, Percy blocked the memories from the trauma, or Calypso touched him while Percy wasn't conscious/was sleeping. The couple is too traumatized by Calypso to think anything vaguely good about her.

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                                                                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Wed 26 Mar 2025 09:01PM UTC

                                                                        They that it is for the best but they are dying on the inside every time they call Hera grandmother.

                                                                        At lest he has a support system in place to drag him out of his self-destructiveness.

                                                                        ooo, I headconnan Percy to be on the ace scale mainly him being demiromantic and ace ( the ace part is me projecting a bit but I fully believe that Percy is demiromantic and it takes him a while to full in love and he wasn't just obvious to his feelings). When he come out to Ody and Pen they just take that as a sign that they were right. Like they no not everyone that is like that has been traumatized into being like that but when they think that someone has been traumatized they can't think of it as anything other than a sing of traumata.

                                                                        Pen is deff going to Calypos island to commit murder after she knows her boys are ok enough for her to leave them for a while.

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                                                                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Thu 27 Mar 2025 07:24AM UTC

                                                                          Hera isn't even sure how to feel about the new acquired title. She's still warming up to it but everyone can tell she's growing fond.

                                                                          Yes !!! Support systems are best. Pen and all the others are gonna drag Ody back into mental stability and health !!

                                                                          Oooo but yea definitely. Maybe nobody really explained sexualities to the couple, so while they can get the concept of demiromantic in the sense of 'slow in falling in love', ace is a bit harder to follow, especially since they only talk about being ace AFTER the couple finds out about Calypso and Percy. Ody and Pen are confused and worried, they just think their child internalised what Calypso did and now subconsciously refuses to have any sexual intercourse. They accept it cause they're great parents they don't try to make Percy feel anything sexual, but they are worried and sometimes try to breach the topic of Calypso and that Percy doesn't need to be ashamed of himself if she did something- and yea. Percy is confused but more or less appreciates it. He's still mainly confused. The couple just feel sad and sick that Calypso not only got to their son, but while he was UNDERAGE, and now they think that trauma is so big Percy blocked off any memories of it and just doesn't want anything sexual anymore so it doesn't trigger said blocked memories. All subconscious, of course. The couple know what Percy is saying is what he THINKS is the truth. The couple distrusts Calypso too much to accept that.

                                                                          Yess !!! Pen is done with Calypso. She had to comfort her husband after he was in her island for 7 years, and now her little baby refused anything close to sex 'because' of what Calypso did. I think that Pen leaving to kill Calypso wouldn't happen for a long time though, since this would all hit Ody really hard and he'd probably spiral into flashbacks and memories. Pen would need to be close by since she and Percy/Tel are the only ones who can calm him down when he's like this, but Percy isn't good at calming people and he spends most of his days at camp so he's not always with Ody. So Pen would stay until it all settled down and Ody grew more mentally stable, though still shaky. She's still unsure about leaving but she reallyyy wants to kill Calypso.

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                                                                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Thu 27 Mar 2025 10:57PM UTC

                                                                            Just everyone being short of shocked that their plan seemed to be working because while they had hope it seemed more like a pipe dream then something that could become realty.

                                                                            Also just Ares cabin is getting special treatment from the rest of because they are taking one for the rest of team.

                                                                            Ody and Pen are just devastated they think a part of life has been ruined for their son and will do everything they can to help him but they respect his boundaries and wont force him into anything. Percy is confused but feels really supported.

                                                                            Ya Pen killing Calypso will happen after she is sure that her boys are ok and that might take a few months/years depending on everything. Pen she has time it isn't like Calypso can going anywhere.

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                                                                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Fri 28 Mar 2025 07:09PM UTC

                                                                              Yess Hera starts to slowly feel a bit of guilt hearing the Ares kids talk about their experiences with monsters, knowing she's the reason the monsters find them.

                                                                              The Ares cabin just gets first showers more often than not because of their sacrifice in playing nice and cuddling up to Hera. I think they'd start to warm up to her slowly tho, since I think most demigods are touch-starved or at least crave affection, so they'd slowly savour this new form of affection from a mildly positive-figure.

                                                                              Ody and Pen are so upset. They understand that Percy is happy and he likes living without sex, but it's still something that unfortunately kind of ties with what they know about Calypso. I know ace is more of a spectrum, so maybe while Percy doesn't necessarily want sex, he's fine with joking about it. Maybe Ody and Pen go look for Percy and find him being jokingly hit on by an old classmate. The couple does NOT take that well, especially since they think Percy has already been violated by Calypso. The guy definitely leaves with his face swollen. Percy doesn't stop them cause he didn't like the guy anyways, he's kind of an asshole.

                                                                              THAT'S FOUL HAHAHAH but true Calypso certainly isn't leaving...... Pen is still itching to beat her up anyways.

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                                                                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sat 29 Mar 2025 07:30AM UTC

                                                                                Just that bit of guilt is enough to undo the spell and the demigods are free from monster and camp is waiting for the Ares kids to stop interacting with Hera but that point they already came to sort of her for her. I think some other demigod would reach out to Hera to see what the Ares kids seemed to like about her and Hera was nice to those demigods because she knew her grandkids would be upset if she wasn't.

                                                                                Ody and Pen think they are saving their son from reliving unhappy memories and Percy is thinks they have a low paitens when it come to assholes which he thinks is fair.

                                                                                Just everyone seeing Pen research ways on how to kill gods and every immortal is wondering who pissed her and thinking about anything they could have done to get one her bad side

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                                                                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sat 29 Mar 2025 08:38PM UTC

                                                                                  Awww maybe the Ares cabin warms up to Hera even more after that. The rest of camp is curious and Hera decides to play nice. Surprisingly, it leads to a lot of bonding. Somehow Hera spends a few days at camp hanging out with the kids, and the kids start showing her these couple therapists and advice from wives on the internet. Hera is immediately taken and gets a phone. I think that would definitely do good for her, since it'd slowly lead to her stop blaming whoever caught Zeus' interest and start blaming Zeus himself. she, as the goddess of marriage, adores that a lot of people are actively trying to better their marriages or at least making sure that they are in a health marriage, even if they have to divorce someone to do it.

                                                                                  Percy is just vibing because he also has a low patience when dealing with assholes. Ody and Pen maybe think Percy is repressing his emotions and discomfort at the situation so they spoil him (more than usual) for the rest of the day. Percy is very happy at that.

                                                                                  Everyone divine is absolutely losing it when they find out. Ody is onboard with it since he hates the gods but i think he'd quickly change his mind when he finds out Pen is trying to kill Calypso. Don't get him wrong he very much wants that goddess dead but i think he'd be terrified that Calypso would be 'lonely enough' to try and do the same to Pen that she did to Ody. He's terrified of his wife going through the same thing and tries desperately to convince her not to go to Calypso's island. He's very much panicking.

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                                                                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 31 Mar 2025 10:06PM UTC

                                                                                    ooo, Hera in some bizarre turn of events becomes the camp grandmother and everyone is ok with it because it turns out that Hera isn't that bad that going through therapy. Also what if after Hera realized that divorce isn't all the bad she gains it as a domain and maybe even divorces Zeus, because their are just some things that therapy can't fix and Zeus cheating is one of those things. Since she now has the domain of divorces she can break up Zeus and not fell bad about it.

                                                                                    Ody is trying his best to trust in his wife but terama is making it hard. He knows that Pen can handle herself but the though of her being alone with Calypso's island makes his skin crawl. Maybe Ody asks for Pen to take someone with her, like maybe he sort of explains this to Apollo knowing the god would want a piece of Calypso for what they think she did to Percy and it turns into a two person mission and Ody feels a bit better about Pen leaving

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                                                                                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Wed 02 Apr 2025 08:31PM UTC

                                                                                      Hera is officially the grandma™ and gets a lot of advice from the younger kids. I think she'd grow stronger too seeing all of that in the internet. Like she's slowly been losing power because she was so deep in denial that marriage has slowly shifted away from her interpretation of it, and thus she was losing her domain slowly. Now though she fully regained it back plus the domain of divorce. She'd definitely divorce Zeus now and all of camp would be cheering, especially since Hera is now powerful enough to be able to stand his rage.

                                                                                      Yea Ody wants to be healthy about it but unfortunately he never quite healed from Calypso. Just sorta shoved it all in a neat little box only to opened when Pen wanted him to talk about it. He'd feel more relieved when Apollo goes with Pen, but then maybe he'd suddenly panic even more, because he KNOWS Calypso is mentally older than Apollo and unfortunately the internet taught him what grooming means. He knows it's impossible to happen Apollo is way more powerful + Pen is there to make sure nobody is manipulated. But he still can't help but panic that he not only allowed Pen to go to Calypso and suffer like him but also he sent his son's boyfriend to suffer even *worse*. Ody is unfortunately just trying to keep it together. He is very bad at it.

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                                                                                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Wed 02 Apr 2025 10:33PM UTC

                                                                                        I love that!! Hera didn't notice that she was losing power because she was in so much denial about how much marriage chanced over the years she couldn't even see the effect it was having on her until she saw the change and started to get her power and more back. I would love Hera to take her grandkids on a field trip to prank Zeus because she is confident in her powers and knows that she could shield herself and the kids.

                                                                                        Poor Ody, he is going through it. Percy tries to be their for his father but this something Ody doesn't want Percy anywhere near because he is afraid that it would being up bad memories.

                                                                                        Now I'm just picturing Ody calling Ares for help because he was the patron of Sparta ( Pen was from Sparta and thinks Ares would protect Pen because of that) and Apollo older brother. Ares knows that Apollo can look out for himself but that doesn't stop him for worrying after learning everything from Ody and tags along as back up to make sure that nothing can happen.

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                                                                                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Thu 03 Apr 2025 11:52AM UTC

                                                                                          Yess Hera starts being an awesome grandma and maybe that makes the other gods curious. At first it's Ares that's curious about Hera's change and starts hanging out with her more, and they've always had a mildly kind-of good relationship but now it gets even better since Hera isn't in denial or angry at Hermes, the twins and the other kids from Zeus' cheating.

                                                                                          Oo Ody desperately wants comfort but also he's scared of Percy finding out where Pen and Apollo are going and he thinks that would make Percy panic since they believe Calypso did 'something' to Percy. He doesn't want to bring his son bad memories but he also doesn't want to pull away enough that his kid starts getting suspicious.

                                                                                          Yeaaa Ody is just making a few calls to make *sure* Apollo and Pen don't get hurt. Ares agrees with it easily because he does like the two but also he wants Ody to calm down. Ody is way more calm afterwards since he knows Ares is way stronger than Calypso and won't take anything from her. Of course Ody is relaxed about this new arrangement only because he doesn't know Ares was, in fact, easily manipulated by Kronos in the first war. I think that would quickly send Ody into a panic again.

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                                                                                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Thu 03 Apr 2025 07:56PM UTC

                                                                                            I'm starting to love good Hera, just after Hera getting over her bitterness and finally getting out of the toxic relationship she grows as a person and can finally get a better relationship with her family. Her relationship with Ares wasn't bad per say but it could be way better and after Ares sees that his mother can change he is open to working on their relationship.

                                                                                            I think at some point after Hera comes to realize that Zeus's kids aren't to blame for his action she should ask Ares if it would be possible to apologize to his half sibling for past action because she has come to realize that the kids are blameless and feels sort of bad for taking her anger out on them.

                                                                                            I don't know if the kids will forgive her because in a lot of causes she was their bogyman growing up, having to hind themselves out of fear she would do something against them or their mothers with they were still too young to defend themselves.

                                                                                            Ody is going through it. Nothing is going right at the moment and he is just a bundle of nerves. He would deff panic if/when he finds out that Ares was easily manipulated in the past.

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                                                                                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Fri 04 Apr 2025 09:08PM UTC

                                                                                              Good Hera for the win !!!!! I think Hera is such a genuinely interesting to think about because she could've been such a good person had she not met Zeus.

                                                                                              Yess Hera starts realising there's no saving this marriage and she gets the divorce domain when she yells out that Zeus isn't her husband in a fit of rage. Now that Hera doesn't need to deal with Zeus' toxicity and childishness on a daily basis she gets much better. Ares sees this and starts reaching out to Hera because i imagine something in him does want back the gentle mom that would sing him to sleep before Hera and Zeus' relationship truly went completely sour and toxic. He's so relieved when Hera does genuinely seem to be becoming even better than that person.

                                                                                              Ooo yea, i imagine Hera would feel guilty about it and want to reach out. Meanwhile the sibling group and the other stepchildren are scared and suspicious when Ares starts liking Hera again. Apollo and Artemis very vividly remember how much Hera's words got to their younger selves and are extremely worried for Ares because they think he's letting her get to him. Hermes is worried too but he didn't have to suffer under Zeus so much because there were already other people around to protect him from Hera.

                                                                                              Yea Hera was really bad. I think eventually (probably only a few decades later) the stepchildren would be willing to try. They won't forgive Hera, ever, but they're willing to forget and restart their relationship with her.

                                                                                              Ody is just looping through worst-case scenarios. I think he'd immediately lose all calm and assurance when he finds out Ares is in fact prone to being manipulated. Maybe he's so worried he thinks about going to Calypso's island to see her and help the group, after all he's the one person who knows the island as good as Calypso. But he's terrified of seeing Calypso again and doesn't know if he can take it. Poor boy is NOT thinking straight.

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                                                                                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sat 05 Apr 2025 12:18AM UTC

                                                                                                The first few times that Ares goes to meet Hera, one his siblings always check in with him to make sure that everything is fine. As they join more trust in Hera the check in get less frequent but they never stop happening.

                                                                                                The step kids only willing to get to know Hera because of her new relationship with Ares. They all know that Ares wont take things standing down and know Hera must have really gotten better if they didn't hear about any issues between her and Ares like they would be in the past.

                                                                                                Now I'm just imaging how up set Delos would be when they find out that the twins are willing to give Hera a chance. Like it up sets them so much they take a humanoid form for the first time every. Delos gets to yell at Hera and drag her kids back to the safety of her island and lecture them. Delos only saw Hera at her worst and doesn't want to believe that she could change because what if it was trap.

                                                                                                Ody is having the worst time ever.

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                                                                                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sat 05 Apr 2025 08:33PM UTC

                                                                                                  The sibling group just has meetings to know when Ares is hanging out with Hera so there's always a member available to check up on him afterwards.

                                                                                                  Yess they all trust Ares to not be so easily emotionally manipulated since he's dealt with Hera for a long time. Even so they're all incredibly surprised when it turns out Hera has indeed changed for the much better.

                                                                                                  Delos has been an island for a really long time even by immortal standards, so i think that would stunt her brain and keep her on a loop of ideas. So Delos took it so badly because for centuries the only idea for Hera in her brain was 'bad'. Now that she finally has a humanoid form i think her brain would start to move forward again, and with a bit of coaxing from the twins her firm wall of bad opinions about Hera would start cracking.

                                                                                                  Ody is having a bad freaking time™ meanwhile Pen, Apollo and Ares are just hanging out, gossiping and travelling to Calypso's island (because for plot reasons they can't just teleport using the gods' powers), extremely excited to bash Calypso's head in. Pen especially, she's been holding onto that rage since Ody came back and and through the centuries in the underworld.

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                                                                                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Sat 05 Apr 2025 11:33PM UTC

                                                                                                    They wouldn't let their oldest brother be without emotional support even if he instead that he didn't need it.

                                                                                                    I 100% agree with that. Island thinking is different than regular thinking. I think the thing that would finial make Delos accept that Hera isn't all that bad is the goddess apologizing directly to Delos for the harm she cause and maybe even swearing not to intentionally harm the twins. Hera is mother, she might not have had the best relationship with her kids until know but she always loved them and understands Delos need to protect the twins for her.

                                                                                                    Pen is living her best life, about to do something she has dreamed about for literal centuries meanwhile her husband is having a meltdown to put all other meltdowns to shame.

                                                                                                    Maybe Ody send another god after them and it turns into a my grandmother eat a fly type situation and gets really out of hand. Or he just turns catatonic due to stress and indecision about if he should go after them.

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                                                                                                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sun 06 Apr 2025 09:04PM UTC

                                                                                                      Ares grumbles about it but is silently glad. Maybe he and Hera get into a mild argument since you know it's still a normal relationship, they're gonna have arguments every now and then. Ares just storms off and in an hour he gets all of his siblings from the group at his house, with ice-cream, plushies and a few weapons to either use on Hera or gift to Ares since he likes weapons.

                                                                                                      Ooo, i imagine that Hera would swear to the Styx to really let it sink it. Sure the promise isn't fool-proof but it's the closest thing to it when you're dealing with the divine.

                                                                                                      Through the journey Pen is constantly daydreaming about brutally murdering Calypso in various ways and considering which one would be the most painful. Meanwhile Ody's mental state is deflating like a balloon.

                                                                                                      Ody tries and Percy finally notices it. He just calls Pen using the rainbows and tells them to hurry up (Ody is having a breakdown in the background of the call). They very much hurry up.

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                                                                                                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 07 Apr 2025 09:02PM UTC

                                                                                                        Ares would be so touched from the care his siblings are showing. I think someone maybe Hermes would bring pictures of Hera they could deface to the party for some extra fun.

                                                                                                        That just shows how much Hera has changed because the old queen would have never promise not to hurt any one of her husband bastards much less swear on the Styx.

                                                                                                        Again Pen is just living her best life while her husband is have the worst time. They hurry up and Pen starts think about the quest way to murder someone that is still brutal because she want to get home faster but still wants Calypso to suffer.

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                                                                                                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Wed 09 Apr 2025 10:01AM UTC

                                                                                                          Yess it becomes a very therapeutic party. It becomes something of a tradition for the sibling group. At the end of every week of month they all get together with weapons and pictures of the faces of the people they're currently upset at, and they just deface and ruin!

                                                                                                          Yess maybe Delos slowly relaxes around Hera. I think it would make for such an interesting dynamic. They're civil and sort-of friends but there's still a lot of grievances between. Maybe they start bonding by talking about their respective children's childhoods. I think eventually Hera would just list out everything she did to the twins to Delos. Delos would be extremely upset but she'd turn around eventually, mainly because the twins didn't tell her some of those things, and now she finally feels like she has someone in Olympus that'll actually tell the truth about how the twins are doing. Delos worries :(

                                                                                                          Pen just calls Hermes over to ask if he can ask Hades what's the worst/ most brutal way someone has died. For ideas. Pen is worried about Ody but she knows he has Percy around now that he found out. For now She is just daydreaming violently. Calypso has no idea what's coming for her. Especially since if Apollo and Ares are also coming along, their domains also work really good to make Calypso suffer. Ares knows the worst aspects of war and Apollo knows which wounds are the most painful due to his healer nature. The three are possibly the best team to torture someone. Pen has creativity and ideas, Ares has bloodshed and rage, Apollo has information and knowledge.

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                                                                                                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Wed 09 Apr 2025 07:54PM UTC

                                                                                                            ooo, not only the is the party therapeutic but it lets everyone know who to watch out for. Like their is a lot beef between gods and all of it is known so the hate party could be a way for them to know who everyone has long standing issues with that might not have been well known before. Like after finding out that one of their siblings really hates this other god or some other god gave them issues before they become Olympians the rest of the sibling would either act as buffers from now on or take action

                                                                                                            Just Hera dishing out every ones dirty laundry and telling Delos about the others god that don't like the twins and what they have done after she finished lister her own crimes to make sure that she doesn't get blamed for that. Delos used to be so focused on Hera that she missed that some of the other gods had beef with the twins. The two of them end up being terrifying allies once Delos comes around.

                                                                                                            Hermes is just a little more terrified of Pen and Apollo after everything is over and done with. He knew to expect stuff like that from Ares but not from the Pen would aggressively adopted him or Apollo, his partner in causing chaos.

                                                                                                            Ya the three of them are probably the best to team to torture someone. I think Apollo should remind everyone of a deranged doctor from a horror movie when he is adding to Pen ideas and Ares is torn about feeling proud of his brother and concerned

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                                                                                                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Fri 11 Apr 2025 11:10PM UTC

                                                                                                              Oooo some minor god upsets Hermes by saying he doesn't deserve to be an Olympian since he's just a 'delivery boy' and suddenly next week a bunch of Olympians are glaring at them and acting cold and cruel.

                                                                                                              Delos realises that her hatred of Hera was so big she didn't take notice or any other possible threat to the twins in Olympus. I think that would be a turning point in their relationship because Delos would start to fling her rage out the window, after all she ignored all the other problems in Olympus in order to be angry at Hera, who's to say that anger grew so much Hera doesn't even deserve it anymore?

                                                                                                              Hermes just watched all that go down and then the next day he has to sit in front of the kitchen table with Mr.D, watching Pen blush at something Ody said. It would give him so much whiplash. I think Apollo would be by far one of the most vengeful gods, since prophecies are usually tied to revenges and there's the rage that prophets feel when they aren't believed and just written off as crazy. Plus when it comes to mortals, Apollo is capable of just.. giving them prophetic powers, just enough that they have to watch their loved one's deaths. so i think it wouldn't be really obvious to immortals since Apollo usually can only go so far on mortals, but from then one Hermes quickly realises that Apollo is actually rather vengeful when he wants to.

                                                                                                              Pen just throwing out ideas and Apollo commenting on whether or not they're possible and how it would affect the human body. Pen would absorb the information so she analysis it and just throws out even more messed up ideas now that she was deeper knowledge. It's a loop. Ares is unsure how to feel about it and just sprints for Olympus to gather the rest of the sibling group. He needs council right now.

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                                                                                                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 14 Apr 2025 01:49AM UTC

                                                                                                                World spreads fact after that and no ones makes a comment like that again, they would like to stay on the good side of the Olympians whenever possible. Having a good portion of them mad at you is just bad.

                                                                                                                100% that is when they can really put the past behind them and be friends or as close to friends as they could be.

                                                                                                                Hermes just making a comment about it and Pen blushes, Ody just laughes because he knows how blood thrust his wife can be and Mr. D didn't believes it at first but after seeing the couples reaction he does.

                                                                                                                I 100% agree!! I really like the fact that Apollo has duality since he is both the god of plague and healing and think that he should be one of the most hospitable and vengeful gods. Like he will spared light, music, art and healing to the mortal world but if you cross him the light will turn burning, the music into screams, art into vision of your doom, and healing into plagues. All the singes of his rage are everywhere but it gets hidden under all the acts of good he does. Most people can't picture Apollo hurting someone right after they seem him heal someone. They forget that he is more than just a healer or an artist.

                                                                                                                The loop goes on until they have the single most painful way to kill Calypso. Artemis showing that she is just as unhinged as Apollo asked Ares if her twin remembered to tell some messed up fact to Pen.

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                                                                                                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Mon 14 Apr 2025 08:21PM UTC

                                                                                                                  The sibling group quickly become well-known among the minor deities because if you anger one, you anger all of them. And no one can afford more than half of the Olympian council being upset at you.

                                                                                                                  Everyone is quickly horrified at this new development, just watching Delos and Hera show up to Olympus arms in hand, gossiping and giggling. Apollo and Artemis are just glad that Hera is getting better and Delos has finally let go of her anger. Meanwhile Percy, who has not been kept up to date with the recent Hera character arcs, still believes her bad and is confused and mildly afraid at this new friendship. He's a bit scared over how much power Hera might hold over his bf now that she's besties with Apollo's mom, but also Hera might genuinely start taking up to the role of stepmother and Percy does NOT want to have family dinners with her.

                                                                                                                  Hermes just eventually lets it go, though he's still very much baffled. Ody is very glad that Calypso actually suffered, and happy his wife at least had fun while on the trip.

                                                                                                                  I feel it had a lot to do with his personality. Apollo is overall a very expressive and energetic person, his personality leans more into one of a healer and artist than of a killer, so people forget a bit. Plus his general company is Hermes and the muses, who although not at all harmless also display that fun and seemingly-not-a-threat look. I think that side of him would come out more often now, since Apollo is incredibly protective over his loved ones (due to the general end his lovers tend to meet...), and Percy has pissed off A LOT of gods. Everyone remembers that Apollo is actually very much vengeful and deadly when they watch him beat up or hurt a minor god for trying to do something to Percy.

                                                                                                                  Ares is very concerned. I'd also imagine Artemis to be able to add things to the killing! She's the goddess of the hunt, and that probably allows her to create an environment and situation where the victim feels *exactly* like a prey. Powerless to the threat of the predator, only able to run and hide for a chance of survival. Apollo and Pen are immediately on board with the idea of hunting Calypso down like that before killing her. They very much want to prolong this but Ody's waiting so they have to be kind of quick.

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                                                                                                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Tue 15 Apr 2025 04:54AM UTC

                                                                                                                    Now that the sibling are getting alone they can control the vote of the council and that scares people. Their are seven of them making them have majority. OO maybe someone feel threatened and tries to cause issues in the sibling group, it doesn't work because the sibling was built on communication but that fact that it happened rattles the group. They wonder if outside influence is part of the reason they were never as close before.

                                                                                                                    No one has never known fear until the meet the combined forces of Hera and Delos. Someone made a rude comment about the sibling group and learned the true meaning of fear. No one mess with their kids and get away with it.

                                                                                                                    I think that Hera would apologize to Percy at some point for kidnapping him and everything. Mainly the unfair treatment that he got in comparison to Jason. Like ya she might have had a reason for the swap but that is no excuse for leaving him alone on the street while Jason got to two new friends a ride to camp.

                                                                                                                    100%, Apollo didn't have a reason before to remind everyone that he has a dark side but now he does. I love the idea of music being Apollo's main domain and that bleeds into the others all the time. Like how when kids need to know something their is usually a song that goes with it (ties into both protector of youth and knowledge). How with plagues their is some creepy nursery rhymes comes about ( like how Ring Around Roses is about the black death). How every prophecy has a rhyme scheme. How people feel better by listening to music and I think his kids can sing to heal people.

                                                                                                                    So just Apollo singing a creepy sing that chills people to their core while he slowly makes his way to the person who harmed his bf. They can hear the song no matter what they do to avoid it and knows that it is for them and what dark things await them when Apollo finally caught them. No one dares make that mistake twice, they have learned and never what to hear a song like that again. They all gain new respect for music because they didn't know it have that kind of effect. Expect for Artemis, she loves all of Apollos songs but she likes the creeper ones the best and everyone looks at her a differently after finding that out. I imagine that she and her hunt would sing some of the creeper ones while hunting down a man that has done something to get on her radar. Like she asked Apollo to write a few song just for that prepose since she know how those song can affect someone and like that would add fear to her prey.

                                                                                                                    OO, Calypso being haunted by such a song even though Apollo isn't singing out loud, he is singing a song in his head (he doesn't want to distract Pen from her planning) not knowing that is enough to count and Calypso is really shaken up by the time they get their and Apollo realized that his song reach its target even though he never actually song it out loud and is a little bit happy that Calypso's suffering started long before they reached her island.

                                                                                                                    Ares makes a side quest to figure out why his little siblings are so unhanged because this is starting to sounds like something the twins have done before. He wants to know if someone did something to twins to force them into being unhanged or if they are just like that. Artemis def adds to the killing, maybe just follows Ares back to Apollo and Pen to help bounce around ideas and to make it easier for her magic to work to make Calypso feel like prey.

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                                                                                                                    1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Wed 16 Apr 2025 12:33PM UTC

                                                                                                                      The group just gets more tight-knitted because now they're scared if they don't communicate they'll fall apart. I'd imagine the other members of Olympus don't actually care that much, more preoccupied with their own stuff. Except Aphrodite i think since she's also the goddess of familiar love she's loving this whole thing.

                                                                                                                      Hera and Delos are wonderful at what they do. Ooo maybe Delos is still writing books, so the next one is just the story of their reconciliation. All the mortals immediately love it because since Delos is actually retelling and not inventing the story is incredibly realistic with the complicated emotions and grievances between the two.

                                                                                                                      Yea, Hera before was very dismissive of everyone she didn't care about, but Jason was her champion so. Percy is still coming to terms with it, but he sees how happy his bf is, plus I'd imagine that Ody and Pen also kind of like Hera since she helped Athena bring Ody home in God Games, simply because Ody loved his wife. The couple is pretty neutral towards her but they still feel gratitude, and i think that'd pass over to Percy so he'd be more open to actually listening to Hera and giving her a chance.

                                                                                                                      Yes!! Music in general is very much one of the main things that define who humanity is, so it's an incredibly powerful domain when paired with another domain that has to do with mortals. It always bleeds into other domains because it's one of the things that define someone as a rational being (mortal or not).

                                                                                                                      Ooo Apollo just creepily singing. Humans by nature always try to match the music they're listening to with their current mood, so i think it'd go vice versa and a scary song would naturally scare people. Artemis is just a feral little gal but she's not animalistic enough to growl so she substitutes it for creepy songs Apollo made for her.

                                                                                                                      I'd imagine upon finding that out Apollo would immediately try to do it with other songs. Like he starts singing love songs in his head and trying to project it to Percy so he hears it. I'd imagine Apollo and Artemis, being twins, figured that out long ago but thought it was a twin thing rather than a music thing, so when they're silent they're actually singing something in their mind to the other. It's just a inside musical for them and they've gotten way too used to it.

                                                                                                                      The twins are unhinged by nature but also due to being raised by a literal island. I think Ares would figure that out upon meeting Human-Delos and seeing how she's like (probably even more animalistic and feral than the twins). Artemis is just following along with the two, but i think as a goddess of the moon she'd be able to change its color, so every night for Calypso the moon is just blood red. The three are very feral and Pen quickly grows to love the twins.

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                                                                                                                      1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Thu 17 Apr 2025 01:10AM UTC

                                                                                                                        That tracks, I think that Aphrodite is the goddess of love in all forms so she would be loving this whole thing.

                                                                                                                        This book becomes Delos best seller since people actually take it as a self book instead of just fiction. They think it just a fun away to take about deep emotion and maybe people go back to her other books to see if they could also be used to help in real live besides being a run read.

                                                                                                                        He still doesn't make it easy for Hera because she stole six months of his live but he is willing to give her a chance and that is enough.

                                                                                                                        Now I'm just imagining Artemis singing Hide and Seek by Lizz Robinett after someone she was after tried to hide in a hunting cabin in the woods. OO if some really messes up the nymphs will join Artemis in her singing and it just sounds like the forest is joining in. They having a grand time with the everyone else is terrified. I imagine that Apollo can just sort of tell when this is happen throw his music domain and might add instruments to the song making it even more like something out of horror movie.

                                                                                                                        100%, I can seem him sending songs to his kids to let them know that he was thinking about them. it would either be that kid favorite sing or one that reminded Apollo of them. I think he would also send songs to his siblings just to annoy them. I think it would be hard for them to tell what is a twin thing and what comes with their domains and this just sends them done a rabbit whole and they try to figure out what is what.

                                                                                                                        They just got so used to sharing songs with each other that if they go a few days without doing it it feels wrong and they check up each other to make sure they ok.

                                                                                                                        OOOO, Apollo singing to Artemis the whole that she was under the sky in a way to comfort her. He left a break in between each song for her to share one of her own but she never did because the sky was too taxing and it just left Apollo worried because something mush have been supper wrong for her not to responded. But he kept the music up in hopes that it could still reach her and brought her some kind of peace.

                                                                                                                        I can't remember if said ToA where a thing in this au or not but Artemis doing the same with Apollo was Lester, hoping that her song could reach Apollo even though he was mortal to let him know that she was still with him even now. This is a supper sad thought but every time it looked like Apollo wasn't going to make it out of something Artemis would sing a version of Delos lullaby because if her brother really was going to die she wanted him to go with the comfort of home it didn't matter that he might not be able to hear her because she also needed the comfort that song brought. Artemis would have fought tooth and nail to be by his side but Zeus knew that and made sure that she couldn't be their for her brother. Unlike the others she know that Apollo died she would follow and took comfort knowing that no matter how things ended she would be back be her brother's side one way or the either.

                                                                                                                        Leto tried her best to make the twins somewhat civilized so they could fit in but Delos was working against her. Ares would finally have all the pieces and is a little glad that the twins aren't as feral as Delos. I love that, Calypso hasn't known peace since Apollo gained Pen and it just keeps getting worse. She was already terrified before the moon changed. Pen loves those feral kids and wait to inform Ody about his two new kids. Ares is just off to the side wondering if he should reel them in, he think that this has to have crossed some sort of line by now and doesn't know what to do. Usually other people are the ones to reel him in and Ares doesn't like how he might be on the other side of that now because he isn't sure what to. Like Calypso 100% deserves this for what she did but at what point should he be concerned at their ably to come up with these ideas and their determination to go through with them.

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                                                                                                                        1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Thu 17 Apr 2025 09:21PM UTC

                                                                                                                          Ares is just happy his gf is having fun. I'd imagine Aphrodite would also invite Artemis to her nights with Zeus and Hera. Even if Artemis is a goddess specifically to virgin women she's still a women's rights defender, I'd imagine she'd love yelling at the married men Zeus slept with and comforting the women, but also doing the opposite whenever the women are the ones who sleep with Zeus. The other three gods are mildly surprised but don't really care cause entertainment!

                                                                                                                          Delos just accidentally ends up as the number 1 writer in the world and is completely oblivious to it. The mortal world has just mostly given up on finding out who the author is and is just excitedly waiting for when the next book suddenly drops. Yea I'd imagine there'd be a lot of people praising the book for it's realism and probably some analysis on the complicated relationships and stuff.

                                                                                                                          Hera is genuinely surprised by it but absolutely tries she is not letting this chance go to waste.

                                                                                                                          Ooo I'd imagine they do that whenever someone, mortal or immortal, either tries or manages to assault one of the nymphs. Artemis due to her domains will obviously help and the other nymphs jump in to defend their friend. So they trap the person in the forest and just have and long, terrifying hunt. Apollo upon noticing just adds onto it because the prey is a bad person anyways.

                                                                                                                          Honestly i can't properly talk about ToA because my memory sucks badly and i legit cannot remember anything about it anymore. But it'd be so sad because if they can talk because of the music domain, since Apollo was now mortal and couldn't access his domains anymore so he couldn't hear. Oof yea i think due to being raised in an island with the only other person even close to their age being the other, the twins are heavily co-dependent. Artemis would've done everything possible to be with Apollo but she didn't have a choice. Either way she knows she can't function without Apollo so she doesn't really care, she'll follow her twin wherever he goes.

                                                                                                                          It didn't help that the twins were also working against Delos since being feral is fun. And yea Ares is suddenly extremely glad that Delos wasn't their primary caretaker initially. I think Hermes would love Delos though, they'd both be extremely feral. Ody is quietly having panic attacks and being scared over what Calypso might do to Pen but then he stops, confused over why he feels like his family just grew bigger. That man totally has inate instincts to whatever Pen is doing I can't be convinced otherwise. Yea Ares just calls for the rest of the sibling group to ask their opinions. Everyone is equally split and conflicted. Except Hermes he says to let them.

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                                                                                                                          1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Fri 18 Apr 2025 12:50AM UTC

                                                                                                                            i don't know why but in my head Aphrodite and Artemis friends or at lest get along really well because they respect each other. They both know that romantic love isn't for everyone and that being single isn't for everyone either. Like Aphrodite just sort of send people that would love to join the hunt to Artemis and if anyone changes their mind Artemis lets them leave the hunt and ask Aphrodite to make sure they have a good relationship if that is the reason they chose to leave. It throws most people off to learn that they are on good terms with each other. So I 100% agree with Aphrodite also inviting Artemis and he taring into the cheating parten and comforting the other one.

                                                                                                                            OOO Delos just dumping all her money from the book sales into camp to sort her grand kids.

                                                                                                                            Just the hunt lasing days or even weeks because everyone wants to drag it out as added pay back. Maybe they even go as far to only sing at night to give the prey the illusion that the day is safe maybe they start again right the prey makes a breck for it during the day they feel safe or they start up again when they get bord of letting bad person have their illusion of safety or maybe Apollo decides to be dramatic and make that person unable to see the sun making them think night as come early. Just some thing really horror movie like that makes the nymphs feel safer because they know how ever mess with them will get his kind of treatment but makes everyone else terrified because they made a horror movie come to live.

                                                                                                                            The only thing I really remember from ToA is that Apollo tried to stab himself in the heart with a arrow during the second(?) book to make it impossible for the bad get what godly engery was left in his body, they only reason why he was left alive as because the arrow he choice was alive and move so Apollo missed his heart. He was still badly injured and the evil people had to save him. But it was just never addressed because Jason died so soon after that. Because of that I think Apollo had a death wish during all of ToA and maybe even before that and that is sort of why he let his duties fall to the side. He either wanted to be forgotten so he would fade or he just didn't have the energy to do them because he has a lot of domain bc of depression or he fully believed the were all going to die during the war and didn't see a point anymore bc it wasn't like it would matter much in a few year.

                                                                                                                            Just at some point when Leto reforms and Ares gets a chance to meet her he thanks her in person for being a part of the twins lives and balancing out some of the Delos feralness. Hermes would get adopted so fast by Delos because this is just other feral child that needs a parent. He is already the twin's brother so it wouldn't be that hard for her to adopt him.

                                                                                                                            This is kind of dark but what if Ody thinks that the new additions to the family are Calypso kids that she had with past victims, what if he wonders if they were his kids. In pjo time works weirdly on her island and in the myths Calypso and Ody did have one or two kids together. Ody is not thinking 100% rationly so him thinking that Pen rescued/freed kids from Calypso's island that could have been his even after all these year would make sense in his head.

                                                                                                                            Hermes was suspired by the wipe lash at first but he he is one board for making Calypso life a horror mover after what she did to Ody and what they think she did to Percy. Hermes like horror moves so he would just be watching everything go done like it was a movie or maybe even suggesting things he say in movies to the twins to see if it was possible in real live.

                                                                                                                            Ares and Athena or socked over how feral their younger siblings. they thought they were they feral ones since they were war gods but they apparently have nothing on their younger sibls.

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                                                                                                                            1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Sat 19 Apr 2025 08:56PM UTC

                                                                                                                              Yess i feel like they'd get along great because Artemis' hunt basically emcopasses women uplifting women, and that brings forth a lot of kinship, platonic love and family feels. Aphrodite loves it because it's not often she gets to experience such a strong bond that isn't romantic.

                                                                                                                              She just throws a bunch of money at the Apollo kids and the hunters. On another note i don't remember whether we decided that Delos sold the books on purpose or was just sending them out and sold them on accident, but I'm just imagining Delos coming back to her island to see a mountain of mortal money and be extremely confused because she doesn't know how popular her books are. The kids are super happy though, the Apollo kids immediately bribe Mr.D into expanding their cabin.

                                                                                                                              Artemis is very vicious when it comes to those she feels are in the wrong, and Apollo is just going along with it, he's equally as vicious but he doesn't feel as strongly about this as Artemis. The hunters love this, since a lot of them joined the hunt to escape from men's lust, and are happy to finally get back at those kind of men.

                                                                                                                              OH. but yea probably. Maybe since The twins communicate through songs in each others' heads, as a mortal Apollo can't hear Artemis' songs anymore which leads him to think she abandoned him (since I'm pretty sure they don't directly interact with him as Lester???..........). He's obviously heartbroken since that's his twin and it's basically the thing that breaks the camel's back after so much stress for centuries caring for his domains. I imagine even when he becomes a god again his mental state still won't be the best, made even worse by the newly acquired trauma.

                                                                                                                              Leto is confused but then sees the twins and immediately understands. They may be feral but she knows they 100% would've been less civilised if Delos mainly took care of them. Hermes is a confused boy since he's already been adopted by Ody and Pen. He doesn't mind the new mother though, especially since now he gets to be even more unhinged.

                                                                                                                              Ooooo i mean the new additions would be Apollo and Artemis, so the misunderstanding would immediately clear, but i do remember that either in the myths or Epic cannot recall which, Calypso had nymphs. Maybe the group comes across a young nymph while hunting Calypso, and decide to bring her along because no way they'll let this kid be raised by the nymphs that encouraged and helped Calypso do what she did. Ody is just having a bad time™ though hopefully Percy can talk some sense into him (the boy is still extremely confused over why they're mad at Calypso, but he's not gonna question it).

                                                                                                                              The younger siblings have domains closer to humanity, and we all know how unhinged and insane humans can be. They just hid it nicely. Ares and Athena accept their fate easily.

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                                                                                                                              1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 21 Apr 2025 03:53AM UTC

                                                                                                                                I don't think were talked about if Delos meant to sell her books or not. I love the idea of Delos doing it an accident and is just confused about all the mortal money. I think she would realize that it is something her kids wouldn't like because they haven't told her about it before and just give its all the grandbabies because she doesn't know what else to do with it. Que the twins still not knowing anything about the books and are question how the hunt and cabin 7 get their money before deciding that they don't really care.

                                                                                                                                Ya their is no way anyone is walking out of a quest without a worse mental state. Quest are just a way to gain trauma people call glory.

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                                                                                                                                1. Saltione on Chapter 6 Mon 21 Apr 2025 07:55PM UTC

                                                                                                                                  Delos just sorta sent the books out so other people could be helped by her experience but she doesn't quite understand currency so she ended up accidentally selling her books. Ya she's so confused when she's suddenly rich but the kids seem to like it so she just gives it to them. Apollo and Artemis just label it as living island shenanigans because even they don't fully know what Delos is capable of.

                                                                                                                                  Very rarely are quests actually needed, but i imagine the kids would hate to be stuck at camp for so long. Like they have this idealistic version of a quest that's basically a fun adventure to not be bored, and very few kids fully realise what quests mean.

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                                                                                                                                  1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Tue 22 Apr 2025 06:58AM UTC

                                                                                                                                    Annabeth is great expiable of that. She saw first hand the aftermath of Luke's bunched quest but still dreamed of going on one because it met getting out of camp.

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          5. UsernamePlaceholder001 on Chapter 6 Mon 07 Apr 2025 09:26AM UTC

            Holy shit what a long tread kinda feels like tumblr anyways OMG IDEAS HELL YEAH

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            1. No_sleep_for_the_week on Chapter 6 Mon 07 Apr 2025 08:11PM UTC

              I honestly, surprised you someone read all that, I think their like over 100 comment is this thread, feel free to add anything if you like

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