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  1. Delos is the ultimate godling caretaker because of how difficult the twins were as kids.

    Yess The Hunt and Percy start to mess around with their powers and doing stupid stuff because they trust Delos and Apollo to take care of things.

    Yes!!! Maybe Mr.Marleen specifically is some feline creature, so sometimes the group will start talking fondly about Mr. Marleen and then maybe Percy just pips up and says like 'I still have the scars Mr. Marleen gave me!' and then he shows like. A tiger claw mark. But bigger. The group just nods because they know how the feline is and know Mr. Marleen genuinely meant no harm but everyone else is horrified and think Mr. Marleen is some ultra evil scientist who tortured the group for Percy to have such a large scar. They hate how accepting the Delos group seems to be at the stuff.

    Oo yea the cosmos gods are always able to tell each other apart and know who is about to walk into the room due to the color and intensity of the glow. Everyone else just thinks the cosmos gods are cryptic little guys with powers beyond this realm because they can't see the glows. Maybe like you said some gods are colorblind, but with the cosmos gods specifically some of them can literally see more spectrums of light and therefore more colors due to their domains. Like they're just talking and maybe two gods start arguing about one stealing the other's shade of red or something and a third god just pipes up like 'what do you mean? They're very clearly different reds?'. Everyone is immediately confused.

    Animalistic Demigods are the best!! Maybe Tyson also has these characteristics, but they're overshadowed by his cyclops behaviour so no one realises it. Yea everyone except the delos group and Tyson think that Percy was experimented on. But Tyson having lived with humans unlike all the other cyclops very much knows what behaviour of his is actually just poseidon demigod behaviour. So Tyson understands that Percy was fine he's just being more demigod than usual, but as a sweet bean he doesn't understand he should tell everyone else that, so he just stays quiet thinking everyone knows that fact and is worried about something else.

    Glowy patches!!!? My new love!!!!! I imagine unlike normal vitiligo, the twins kind of look like cracks. Like glowy cracked lines across their skin that sometimes coincide and lead to a big patch of glowy skin. Maybe since Delos is connected to the twins, staying in it for so long lead to the twins kind of slowly shifting closer to their 'true forms' so to say (aka glowy skin and glow but everyone sees it this time). Of course it's nowhere near enough time for everyone to witness the wonder of their glowy skin, but it's enough for the cracks in their skin to look lighter/darker/different color from their skin. It leads everyone into thinking that instead of vitiligo, those are actually scars and then everyone is terrified that not only were two gods SCARRED, but also those scars look like cracks and they can't think of anything that might've done them.

    Maybe they gain more glowing freckles the more they time they've been part of the hunt. So the amount of glowing freckles become a subtle sign of Ranking. Hunters who don't yet have any glowing freckles are basically the babies of the group and barely get the change to hunt monsters themselves because the rest of the hunt is just extremely protective of them.

    Oooo!!! Yeaa maybe the bioluminescence is typically only visible when he's deepp in the sea because that's the "natural" habitat of bioluminescent creatures. So his powers looked at all these glowy people and decided that this must be a natural habitat too, and promptly makes him glow.

    Yesss i think during Delos time Percy would learn to control his bioluminescence, so everyone discovers he actually glows maybe when the power's out. Ody and Pen are horrified and shakily ask him about it and Percy goes on that rant. Everyone in the room thinks that the evil people twisted Percy's reality so much that he now thinks it's cool to be heavily experimented so he can glow.

    Honestly the Zeus i like the most is like the Zeus from Neal illustrations (you should check them out if you don't know awesome artist!!), so basically a mix between oblivious and asshole. I imagine Zeus never actually learned empathy or any morals due to his childhood, since the people who cared for him were too busy protecting him from Kronos to teach him literally anything. So from my favourite interpretation, Zeus isn't an asshole on purpose, but he also doesn't care if he hurts people. Like he won't go out of his way to hurt people but very rarely will he go out of his way to NOT hurt people (unless said people are his loved ones). He doesn't have a moral compass at all, or empathy, and it's clear. But yea he's definitely oblivious no questions asked. He'd know about it but he wouldn't make the connection that everyone else made and therefore wouldn't see or understand the side-eyes.

    I think, and maybe that's the hidden lover for Angsty Zeus inside me, that Zeus would dislike the parallel he thinks he's seeing between his relationship with Kronos and the twins' current beliefs. Baby Zeus felt no fear towards Kronos; he was a baby, no one was going to tell him what Kronos was actually doing. baby Zeus just knew that man was his father and wanted to go to him regardless of how much messed up things he saw Kronos do, because that's his dad and he won't hurt him, right? Current Zeus thinks he's seeing the same situation with the twins, with their love and adoration for people who hurt them. He'd be uncomfortable with the reminder of his childhood, so i think he's mostly ignore it, though he'd definitely treat the twins more softly and gently.

    Yess!! The twins are extremely confused when the sibling group is suddenly gifting them weapons and refusing gifts back. They grow worried and start thinking the group is trying to tell them something subtly. The twins play into it and hang out more with the rest of the group to try and find out what that thing is. Meanwhile the sibling group is happy and thinks their strategy is working because the twins are staying around Olympus more often.

    Percy and The Hunt just occasionally feeling a strong sense of Deja Vu and confused over it since the camp is acting so much like Delos.

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    1. 100%, I think the twins would have hated have to stay in one place for so long and raised hell to either prove that they could handle the out side world or just a byproduct of them being stuck in one place for too long.

      This is super random but I head cannon Hades loving music do to Orpheus opening a way into the underworld with music and the first person to do something like that was baby Apollo practicing his music before he old enough to gain a domain. Making Hades the first person off of Delos to meet the twins ( hades had to return Apollo to Delos so he meet Artemis as well) and he never lets Zeus live down the fact he got to met his kids before him or let Poseidon live down the fact that the he is the twins favorite uncle because he go the chance to bond with them longer. I also kind of like the idea of Hades have some type of injure that hasn't healed form bring in Kronos stomach ( in some stories Hades held all his siblings up and away from the stomach acid leaving only himself to deal with it) and baby Apollo managing to heal Hades while in the underworld because while he wasn't the god of healing yet the potential is there and he manage to tap into it to save this nice guy that promised to help him get home from chronic pain. That action would but Apollo as Hades favorite nephew for the rest of time. ( I also think that having the oracle cursed caused Apollo to have chronic pain that was so bad bleed over the Artemis and their relationship was never the same once it got out that Hades was the cause and the king of the underworld is trying everything to make it up to his niece and nephew because it was a bad decision made in anger, he didn't mean to hurt his family but what is done is done and their is no going back. Maybe one day they can be close again but he will never be their favorite uncle again because he doomed them to 70 ish years of endless pain. Hades would feel so bad when he found out his actions had consequences, his nephew saved him from his pain years ago but in return he is the very reason his niece and nephew know what that kind of pain feels like.)

      Back on topic I think it would kind of funny if the hunt + Percy forgot to hold themself back and everything is wondering what type of horror they went through that forced them to gain that kind of skill when they were really just messing around the whole time.

      OOoo, I like that, maybe they even refer to Mr. Marleen as a love able shit head or a little asshole that too cool to actually hate because lets be honest cats and anything feline has an attuited and everything is thinking that the Delos group is just rationalizing how much they used to hate the evil scientist before the brainwashing kicked in and how much that differs to now after the brainwashing is in effect. The group feels hopeful because this might be a sing that on some level they still dislike the evil people.

      Maybe someone says something about Percy large scar and he tells them that it was his fault really and that Mr. Marleen didn't mean too and the Delos group all agrees because they all know that the feline didn't mean too that Percy should have been a little more carful because Mr. Marleen is still a large wild animal no matter how well behaved they are. The group is even more horrified because they think the Delos group are blaming themselves for being tortured.

      OOO, I love cosmos gods being cryptic, I think prophecy and gods of knowledge should also be considered to be cryptics because they just sort of know more and forgetting that other people don't have the some access to information. Since Apollo is all three he would be the biggest cryptic of all times and because he shares most things Artemis she is right their behind him as the second biggest cryptic and their connection do to being twins would add to their status of cryptic. Making the evil people brainwashing them even more scary because not only did they brainwash gods they brainwashed the twins who are the biggest cyptics of he godly world.

      Now I'm just imagining Apollo making a painting in colors that only cosmos gods could see leading to everyone else being confused and think it is a prank of some kind.

      I LOVE the creaks idea!!!! Delos being swamped in the twins godly energy paired with the fact the Delos is connected to the twins makes it easier for glow to shift to include the normal section of light people can see in. The longer they are their the more time their glow can adjust to be include the new sections of light.

      Maybe some of the cracks sort of look like lighting scares and everyone thinks on type of whatever put cracks into a gods essences they were also hurt by electricity to make them scared of Zeus's lighting so they would be more willing to turn against the gods or less willing to go back to Olympus.

      I love that! The glowing freckles would be the only real way to tell how is the oldest of the hunters. But having the hunters have glowing freckles that resemble starts gives a who new meaning to Zoe's last words. Like while she was telling Artemis that she could see the stars she might looked up the night sky and saw the glowing freckles of her sisters in the hunt. Like she could have imagined the faces of the hunters that have long since pasted smiling at her while she joined them in the afterlife. (I maybe myself sad writing that)

      Everyone just nodding and giving Percy a tense smile while all they really want to do is throw up but they don't have the heart to burst Percy's bubble at the moment. They all think Percy is just finding glowing cool as a way to cope with the heavily experiments down on him and no one wants to take that way from him until they have a for sure plan in place to help everyone out.

      (I will deff check out Neal illustrations when I get the chance) I really like that interpretation of Zeus. I think that would put him under true neutral and it think that fits him quite well.

      OO maybe every takes Zeus ignoring it as a sign that he doesn't care or that they are right to be side eyeing him and miss the way he treats the twins with love and care. Like from that point on everyone is trying is trying to keep the twins and Zeus separated because they think the twins deserve to be around people that care and they don't Zeus falls into that category. Zeus is obvious to that fact and is wonder why it seems like he hardly sees the twins anymore and is debating if he should go out of the way to interact with them or let them have alone time to get their thought in order because he think they had a break though and need time to come to terms with everything like how he need time to come to terms with that his father is bad.

      The twins just thinking that their siblings are trying to tell them that Olympus isn't safe hence them needing so many weapons and are staying around Olympus to try and find out what the threat is. The siblings have no idea that their plan back fired so badly and are just happy that the twins are more.

      OOO, the Deja Vu feeling makes the Hunt + Percy miss Delos, like it gives them a seems of homesickness because while camp is great and all they can't go all out here, people have been weird since they got back and they had to leave all the cute animals behind.

      So just like the camp over hearing the Delos group planning their next visit to check up on Mr. Marleen and the others and their just being a huge debate. Everyone is auguring about while they should stop the Delos group or let them go so they could follow them and finally get ride of Mr. Marleen and the rest of the evil that has been hiding because they have gotten no wear on their research and this might be their only chance to find and get ride of them.

      also as a side note this idea could be made into a Marvel crossover by making the evil people Hydra. Like Hydra has just find out about the godly world and wanted some of that power for themselves and made a plan but they never got a chance to get past the plain phase and have learn their lesson to never mess with the godly world again. Hydra has a history of brainwashing and experimenting on people so everyone could base their fears off of notes they got from raiding hydra bases.

      The Avengers could be in the back ground wondering who is going after hydra but is happy about that because it makes their job easier and Thor just giving vague impute about hydra overstepping their reach getting what they had coming, and something about how they should have thought more before after godlings ( the chaos the greeks caused looking for everyone didn't go unnoticed and made it ways through the rumor mill and every Pantheon is keeping its younger member close by until the greeks could take out threat bc if someone is targeting young people in the godly world it is only a matter of time before the reach beound the greeks, they will help out if they are asked because that kind of thing threatens all of them but wont interfere unless asked because that would be rude towards the greeks)

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      1. I imagine all of the gods, at least while they're kids, also have ADHD (since all demigods do) and that leads to a lot of complicated situations when said kids are superpowered.

        Ooo Hades means well most of the time but spending so much time alone (in Kronos's stomach and in the underworld) took it's tool on his emotional development. He's incredibly oblivious to social interactions and doesn't always think ahead when doing something. For the sake of happy endings, i think Percy would at least coax Apollo into giving Hades a chance without Percy himself realising it. Just Percy talking about his own experience with Hades and how he's his favorite uncle. Hades and the twins aren't getting that old relationship back anytime soon but i think with Percy's words Apollo would start giving Hades more opportunities to prove that he's changed for the better.

        Everyone thinks the group went through some kind of gladiator arena when they were just being silly and energetic

        Ooo yea cats are assholes. The group would be constantly insulting Mr. Marleen jokingly but everyone else is incredibly hopeful that maybe their attempts at getting rid of the brainwashing are working. Maybe with the suspected rationalising some people start to suspect that the group got hit with some mind-control machine, because really it's still insane to imagine all of these powerful people being manipulated into something when they were all there for the two big wars.

        Oo Maybe Percy is sulking and complaining about another scar he got from a horse-like animal in Delos, and one of the others just pops up and says that Percy knew better than to do what he did. It's true because Percy got the scar by standing behind the horse animal and he himself knew he shouldn't done that, but everyone else is just horrified and think that it's some messed up cycle of them blaming the victim for the scars until they all agree the scars are all their fault and not the torturer's.

        Gods being cryptic is the best!! Yea i imagine the sibling group is silently extremely worried and afraid because the twins were only slightly less cryptic with them than with everyone else, and now with how cryptic the twins were constantly the group is scared of messing something up. They got used of the twins' cryptic stuff but the sibling group now thinks this is a NEW cryptic stuffs and they're tiptoeing around it.

        Apollo just makes the extra effort to paint in cosmos colors. you'd just enter his house and it's filled with seemingly blank canvas on the walls but every cosmos god that visits is in immediate awe and starts complementing Apollo.

        Yess!! I imagine it would a LOT of time for that to actually happen to be honest and so it isn't discovered for another few centuries. For now the cracks just lightened up enough to look like scars for the not-cosmos gods.

        Ooo yes, everyone silently sees Zeus as the god most easy to hate, and they think the evil people used lightning specifically for that. They wanted the twins to turn against Zeus. I think Zeus would be oblivious, but upon finding out would actually feel guilty anyways because lightning is his domain and in a way he hurt the twins. He makes sure to be extra soft with them. I think by then the twins would actually notice the change.

        Awww man that's sad. Maybe as some bonus ritual practice the hunters do the boons, but also get a flat, round rock and paint freckles onto it, being incredibly precise and putting the exact number on their exact spots maybe as a way to show that Hunter's connection to Artemis but also their individuality. They were a hunter in the end, but they were far from expendable and were valued and special in their own right.

        Pen is just taken back to when Ody was back and kept trying to reason and cope with what happened to him. She has seeing her child now behaving the same. At least now she knows how to act. Yea they're just letting the Delos group keep whatever coping mechanisms they have as long as they're safe until they get a proper plan on helping the delos group.

        I always loved morally grey characters, even if I don't particularly like that character~ I always find the older gods' childhood under Kronos super interesting.

        Aw man that's saddd. Yea Zeus is just getting misunderstood. I think at one point the twins would realise Zeus is treating them softly, and they won't trust him persee, but they'll definitely be curious on why that's happening. Maybe the twins start going out of their way to interact and hang out with Zeus in order to figure it out. Everyone is confused over what's going on and Zeus is overjoyed. At least now it seems the situation is losing its parallels to his childhood...

        The twins are ultra confused and wary and get clingy to the others. The others are just happy and cling back because honestly the sibling group has been stopping themselves from clinging to the twins since they got back. The group is still scared the twins may be taken away.

        Yeaa The Hunt + Percy would feel a bit watched with what's going on. I think neither would take well to that, the hunters are used to being in the shadows under the moonlight and every time Percy felt watched it was because he did something in school and now the whole school was making fun of him.

        Ooo yea i imagine they're pretty split. On one hand they're all ferally protective over the group right now and don't want them anywhere close to the evil group anymore. On the other that would mean maiming and the opportunity to destroy who hurt the group....

        OO yea Hydra would definitely be greedy enough to try it. Plus they're smart enough to at least hold their own at the start, though obviously they don't fare well afterwards.

        The Avengers decide to keep that box tightly closed and not question Thor anymore. Some members are curious and want to know but they are silenced quickly.

        Yea i imagine the other Pantheons are watching and taking out hydra bases when they find them. They won't intervene, that's rude, but they're completely willing to if asked. Maybe Hydra becomes some sort of tale for younger gods, since maybe once everyone knows the truth it still probably won't reach the other Pantheons and they'll remain thinking two Olympians got brainwashed and tortured. the tale is basically to watch out for mortals and that they can sneaky when they want, but ultimately gods reign supreme because lets be honest all of the pantheons are incredibly prideful they wouldn't have a tale that didn't end with a 'gods are the best' ending.

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        1. In my head the more domains a god has the more ADHD they have.

          I love Hades being the award uncle that every ones loves but also gives side eye too because of the lack of social skills. I think at some point Hades would win Apollo trust back but it would take longer for him to win back Artemis. Their would be a lot of highjix because Hade would do all kind of weird things to try and show that he cares, like giving the twins hellhound puppies or zombie servants.

          Everyone looking for spells that could have been used on the Delos group and trying to find blue prints for a machine in the notes they stoll from the evil people.

          I love that idea!! Percy should 100% know better, he knows horses he can can to them, he could probably talk to horse like monster and has no excuse for being that reckless. Everyone 100% thinks the Delos group is in some kind of victim blaming cycle.

          The sibling group trying to hard to tell the difference what could be new cryptic stuff or new trauma and has no idea if they are right or not. So many fights would break out between them during one of their debates because Athena would think something was just new cryptic stuff and Ares would think it was trauma.

          I love that. Everyone else thinks they being trolled and are waiting for Apollo to bring out the his normal paintings and are shocked when Apollo never does. The earthlee gods could start think that Apollo was losing it, that like so many people with prophecy Apollo was starting to be driven made but no they are just color blind compared to cosmos gods.

          Ture, for earhty people to see the twins glow they would have spend a ridiculously long time on Delos. I also think after spending enough time away from Delos their skin goes back to normal because their glow losses all it progress without Delos their as guide to the normal light spectrum

          They think something is wrong with Zeus because he can be soft to kids but usually only when they need that extra comfort or that he did something he knows was wrong and wants them to forgive him and are wondering what happened to make Zeus act this way towards them.

          I love that!! Now I'm picturing them having a mormale made up of those rock, that it is hinden somewhere only they could find so they could pay repects to their fallen anytime they like.

          Pen hates that her family has to go throw this but at lest she has the knowledge to help.

          Same, I love morally grey characters, they are always fun even if I hate them at times. any gods child hood is fun to pock at.

          Zeus is happy that it looks like his kids are choosing him over the people that hurt them and everyones else is worried the twins are trading on person that hurt them for anther.

          The twins just want to know what is going on and who they need to protect their siblings from and refuses to let their sibling out of their sight until the danger is over and the siblings are just happy they can fininaly cling to the them like they wanted too to make sure the tiwns are really ok.

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          1. Ooo maybe it's some kind of mechanism to avoid the gods from neglecting their domains. The more domains they have, the harder it'll be to focus on just one, so their ADHD helps them not neglect their domains. It would also explain why Hermes and Apollo are so chaotic and energetic!

            Ohhh!!!! I think the twins would love it, even if they find it a bit weird. Maybe Artemis would use the zombie servants as hunting tools, to train her newest hunters but also to entertain the hunt when they're particularly bored. I think Apollo, being the silly guy that he is, would give the hellhound puppies to his kids and then have a bonding activity with his whole cabin (they're gonna try to teach the pups how to use a bow).

            Ooo, if we're going off the base that Hydra is the evil people (or atleast the evil people are something similar to hydra), maybe they end up finding files about experiments and memory loss. Everyone would immediately panic because even if the delos group recognise them, it doesn't mean some of their memories aren't gone. The camp and Ody and Pen then start to subtly bring up references about things that happened to see if the group remembers. Maybe, due to the ADHD Percy and the twins have, plus how The Hunt doesn't really pay attention to many things outside Artemis, they don't actually remember some trivial events simply because their memory is bad. Everyone would then be heartbroken and think that Hydra/the evil people did erase some of the group's memories.

            Yess Percy got cocky and is now sulking about it. Everyone else though is horrified at the cycle and try to gently break it. It's really hard for them to cope because they instinctually get angry when someone from the delos group victim blames someone else from the group, but they have to extremely gentle about it because the group is just hurting each other. They can't be mad at anyone from the delos group even when they want to.

            Oo yea, I think this would be where their differences most clashed after the sibling group formed. They'd still talk it out but it did make them upset. Artemis and Apollo notice this and are extremely confused since Ares and Athena were getting along really well before. The twins start being less cryptic (as is, they don't mention the stuff that would be considered cryptic) when they realise it's why the two are tense.

            Everyone is confused and the sibling group is starting to worry a bit. they think it's something to do with Apollo's prophecy domain since it fits well with madness, and try to be there for him. Oooo, maybe since prophecies are also closely associated with blindness and not being seen (in the way of being ignored), whenever a big prophecy is coming or the fates are simply messing around, Apollo slowly loses that ability to see more than the light spectrum most do, so his vision becomes like a non-cosmos god. Maybe if it's a particularly fate-charged era he starts to lose his sight, though he can still get around with his godly senses.

            Yesss. Everyone is extremely confusing when the 'scars' caused by the evil people start fading. They brush it off as merely due to the twins being gods and not being permanently affected, so they still think the cracks are scars and the twins were hurt by the evil people.

            They're suspicious, but everyone else has been acting like the twins are sensitive and hurt, so it's not exactly out of the new norm. They went sneaking around to Hera and Percy since those two usually always know whenever Zeus did something, and are immediately confused when they're met with negatives.

            Yesss I'd imagine Artemis would use her powers to clone the rocks, so the original one stays in the grave while one clone is kept by the Hunt and a second clone is kept by Artemis in her temple in Olympus. She has a whole mural of just rocks, tucked away in her temple so she remembers her friends. I'd imagine Apollo, to comfort her, would teach her how to paint well enough so Artemis can recreate the rocks perfectly. It's the only thing she knows how to draw and she's fine with it. Now whenever she starts mourning she pulls out a canvas and just starts painting the rock, remembering the Hunter's individuality and connection to her.

            Pen is basically a licensed therapist at this point. She WILL help her family and nobody is going to stop her. She learned how to gently get Ody to stop victim blaming himself before, she knows what to do now.

            Yesss baby gods are the best they're so interesting and traumatized !!!!!!

            Everyone is misunderstanding Zeus and doesn't trust him, but Zeus himself is just oblivious and happy. Maybe (and because if we're making Hera good we might aswell make Zeus good/decent too) Zeus is especially attentive now, and the twins take it as their chance to subtly insult his choices and morals to see how far they can push it (so they know how soft Zeus is treating them and thus get closer to figuring out why). Instead because Zeus is trying to be nice he starts to take their words to heart and slowly does less morally questionable decisions/acts.

            The twins are confused and slightly scared over why everyone seems to be walking on eggshells (they're walking on eggshells around the twins themselves, so the two don't see when everyone is relaxed). They start thinking that maybe there's another big bad controlling Olympus and because of that nobody can directly say it so they're just trying to clue the twins in.

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            1. I really like the parallels of gods having ADHD because of their domains and demigod having it because of their battle instincts. I think that some demigod should get a double dose of ADHD if they gain more than one accept of their parents powers because not only do they have it because of their battle instincts but they also got it for the some reason their parents did.

              I image domains having some leaving of sentience, mainly them picking the god they want to represent them and can some show when they are happy or up set. I also think they have the most say when it comes to demigod getting powers, like gods don't have DNA so their domains just pick which kid they like and who they will give their powers to. The domains found that giving gods ADHD helped their gods so if more than one domain too a liking to a kid they will give the kid ADHD so it could help in the same way not realizing that they double dosed the kid. I also think that gods could be double dosed with ADHD, like you said all gods having ADHA as kids and the ones that have a lot of domains but are still young just get double dosed.

              100%, it shows that their uncle really does care even if he has a weird way of showing it. They some how actually teach the hellhounds to use a bow and everyone is now terrified. Apollo drags Hades over to show him and he asked Apollo to teach Cerberus to make him even more terrifying in hopes that people will finial leave the underworld alone.

              Everyone wandering how for the memory less goes, like we talked about Delos having time weirdness before so the Delos group not knowing how long they have been gone because 1) Delos time weirdness 2) everyone in the group sucks at telling time be ADHD or being unused too ( I think the hunt needed to keep track of time) and everyone thinks it is because of the evil people messing with their memories.

              Before Athena and Ares feel really bad when they notice the twins are doing that because they don't want them to feel the need to hide something about themselves for their sake. This leads to a talk about twins shouldn't hide stuff just because of others reactions and the stuff going on between Athena and Ares is their own issue not the twins so it was ok for them to be themselves and not to worry about it.

              The rest of the sibling group looking at Mr. D to see if Apollo strayed into his domain of madness. They are happy when he shakes his head no and just accept this as on of the cryptic things about Apollo.

              OOO, what if it is the opposite. Like Apollo starts to lose the ability to see in the normal section of light making him more like the blind prophets and oracles under his protection. He can see more than what is normal but can't see normally. He still loses his vision it just starts with what most people can see before it ends up at the point he can only see in his vision and have to use his godly senses to get around.

              I really like the idea of Apollo's vision being a sliding scale, like the more of the future he sees he loses the ability to see the present. So Artemis could always tell how much information Apollo gotten from a vision because of how much of his eyesight is affected. For the longest time she would be the only one to know about this until the sibling group and they are just horrified to find out their brother has been going blind on and off since forever and no one but Artemis know about it.

              Maybe they take the 'scars' fading as sign that the twins are finally healing from the damage the evil people have done. or maybe they think after breaking though the brainwashing the twins are ashamed of their 'scars' and are trying to hide them for some reason.

              That is so sweet. The stars are the one thing Artemis can paint, because it is her favorite thing about the night and because of the connect they have to her hunters.

              Zeus changes for the better and everyone is confused. The twins were just trying to find the limit when it come to their father but their wasn't one apparently and everyone else are hyping Zeus up to be the worst of the worse before this throw them through a loop.

              OOO, Apollo trying to force a vision or do something with powers so they could know what is going on it just back firing getting him injured or sick everyone is treating him like he is break able after that. They - Artemis have no idea why Apollo is suddenly hurt/sick and Artemis knows that is some times happened when Apollo tried to force his powers but didn't realize it would be that bad so she is also freaking out a little. Everyone seeing that Artemis is freaking out knows that his is not normal and freak out even more.

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              1. I'd imagine. It'd be interesting to see, especially since those kids would probably feel like failures since everyone else seems to be able to work with their ADHD, but those kids can't (they don't understand double ADHD).

                The domains don't realise they're making the kids' lives harder, they're just loving their new funny mortals. I'd imagine the more rare domains would be the ones who don't require ADHD to work, so they're more mature when choosing their kids.

                They have a very big knack for bows. Apollo also teaches Cerberus how to use a bow, in exchange for getting Argos to be revived (because that dog deserves to be with Ody!!!!!). I imagine Ody and Pen would be overjoyed, and Percy would be confused and happy when Argos starts licking him, recognising him as Tel. Maybe Apollo tries to use this as a way to bond with Ody, since the man is his bf's dad, so he just asks Ody if he wants help teaching Argos how to use a bow.

                The Delos group has actually always been bad at keeping track of time, before they just had people to do it for them, but they were pretty much running wild in Delos. Ody and Pen are terrified, because they already dealt with Percy not remembering being Tel, they can't deal with Percy forgetting about them AGAIN and having to regain the boy's trust once again. Maybe due to some files in Hydra bases everyone thinks it's a continuous process, like their memories are still being erased right now. They panic immediately.

                The twins take it to heart, then drag the rest of the group over because they all know they need to hear it. They've all gotten too used to changing themselves to appease someone.

                Ooooo!!! I'd imagine he'd start to be able to see the cosmos properly, like the wavelengths and galaxies that we can't see due to them not being in our light spectrum. He'd just spend days staring at the sky, because it's truly pretty and a sight to see, even if it means he's blind in the normal sense. Being a silly guy without filter, he'd just casually mention it to his siblings, like suddenly start talking about how pretty the Andromeda A black hole actually is. Artemis is just nodding, used to it.

                The sibling group is horrified, then grow overprotective of Apollo once they're told that right now Apollo can't actually see much, since the last decade or so had like 2 great prophecies and a bunch of smaller albeit important prophecies, to a point Apollo lost his sight and is just now recovering. They start to motherhen him, and when Percy complains about not seeing Apollo they just tell him about what's happening. Suddenly Apollo has another mother hen.

                Aww. I think they wouldn't think the twins broke through brainwashing, since they still seem fine with the delos pets (that everyone else thinks are scummy scientists), so they think they're still brainwashed. Still, they're all silently glad to not see the scars anymore, since they hated the sight of them, a constant reminder gods can be harmed.

                Artemis is a very dedicated patron even if she's mentally younger than most of her hunters.

                Zeus is just oblivious and confused. I think the sibling group would pick up on what the twins are doing and start encouraging Zeus the same way, slowly making him better. Hera and Zeus definitely wouldn't get back together, but i think they'd eventually become at least good friends.

                Artemis actually freaks out insanely easy regarding her twin, she just has the moon abilities and is able to hide it. Maybe Apollo had to expand his domains to be able to force it and so his sun domain temporarily overpowered her moon one and deactivated it slightly, leaving Artemis more expressive. Everyone is insanely scared, since they're all so confused ever since the group were bought back from the evil people. Nothing is making sense at this point.

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                1. I really like the idea of camp half blood being on big family but it only really started being one around the sea of monster. Before that each cabin would do anything for their siblings but not that much for the other cabins. So the people in the same cabin with double ADHD would be their for each other so it wouldn't be that bad expect if you where the only person in you cabin with double ADHD. But then the border was failing and everyone at camp out to help each other out and now everyone supports each other. All the people with double ADHD build a mini support group with each other.

                  Percy would be happy for anther pet and Argos would be over joyed at having all their humans back in one place. Ody agreeing because he can see this as Apollo award bonding attempt that it was.

                  OOO since they were just running wild in Delos, I think that would make it really hard for them to get back in the groove of being around people. Like this was the first chance Percy got to run wild in his life, Delos was a place where their weren't rules or expiations for him to conform to. This is would be the first he could embrace all his demigod treats without needing to fear others reactions. Like yes camp was save but at first people kept him at arms length because he a kid of the big three so he wouldn't want to do anything that could be considered weird incase it made people avoid him more. Then he become of their leaders and had to act as an example for the rest of camp. On top of all that he was being watch by the god to see if he as a danger and had to be killed, he wouldn't feel save enough to let lose incase the gods take his weirdness as a threat. He had enough going on that he wouldn't need to risk it, but after he got feed up with the gods and didn't care about it anymore it was too late and hiding his less than mortal treats as already an enforced habit.

                  The hunt doesn't really interact with others that much so they were already used to be running wild and no one but Artemis and maybe Apollo would know what their normal looks like. Artemis and Apollo are taking this chance to blow off stem and just follow in the hunts footsteps of encouraging Percy to run wild for the first time. I think they would encourage Percy to show more of his wildness more often by telling him that his loved wouldn't care leading Percy happily showing off more of his demigod treats with the Delos group cheering him on and everyone else watching in horror.

                  I love the idea of everyone thinking they memoires are actively being erased. Pen and Ody would be freaking out so badly, they 100% can't deal with the fact their kid might forget them. I think they would be randomly checking the Delos group to see how fast they are losing memories but again the Delos group has a crap memory and they just panic over the fact the Delos group doesn't remember something that happened after they were "freed".

                  100% they need to make sure that everyone is on the page, that everyone here will love each other unconditionally and no one needs to change themselves.

                  I love that!! Apollo getting a little excited when starts losing his nonmoral vision because he knows he will get to the true beauty of space again and is always something to look forward to even if he can't anything else for a time.

                  OOOO, so at some point Apollo could lose all his sight right ( i think that what we diced on, it just goes in phases until it is gone for real) What if when he reaches that point he starts hearing the universe. Like either is other senses try to fill in the gap leading him to being able to hear more than he should or without being able to see his other domain tries to fill the gap. Like his art domain talks to his music domains and the two work to gather to turn Apollo blank would back into something beautiful.

                  Wait, does this mean that Apollo went though both of the wars blind. Like I think Apollo would start losing his vision when the big prophecy was first given back in WW 2. Does he know what his kids look like? Did he lose too much of his vision in those 70 years of waiting to know the faces of his kids who died to save the world.

                  Ya Apollo is going no where without one of this mother hening siblings or bf until he gets some of his sight back.

                  Your 100% right, I forgot about the delos pets for second. They would be so happy to know that they twins weren't permitly hurt like they thought, they think not having the scars as a reminder of whatever they went though will make it easiy for the twins to recover.

                  The rest of the godly world is in shock because both Hera and Zeus has changed for the better something no one saw coming. Ya that ship has sailed, Zeus and Hera will never get back together. They are both rulers still and the fact that they have to work together helped them build a friendship

                  I like that, everyone thinking that Apollo is the more protective twin but it is actually Artemis. Apollo freaks out are shown but Artemis aren't. Apollo can trust Artemis to look out for her self so while he still freaks out over her safety he knows that she will be ok. He is giving her a helping hand not saving her most of the time. Artemis has none of the trust because Apollo is reckless.

                  For the first time every one of Artemis freak outs over Apollo is shown and no one is handling it well. For the first time Artemis seemed like a teenager in the eyes of everyone, it was easy for them to imagine Apollo as one but Artemis kept her emotions to herself so it was harder to see until know. Until she was freaking out over the collapsed form of her twin. She never looked younger until them and they are filled with even more hate towards the evil people.

                  OOO, Artemis thinking that Apollo collapsed because of whatever evil person has taken over Olympus and vows vengiouse on whoever did this to her twin and someone over hearing and thinking that someone was hurting the twins on Olympus and that they stock again. They start looking for people out side the king and queen, becuase they know it wasn't Hera and they can't see this new and aproved verson of Zeus doing thos.

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                  1. Yess!! I'd also imagine if certain domains give ADHD by default, others may give different things. Like maybe some children of Poseidon are bipolar due to how wildly the ocean can change. Some children of Aphrodite might be narcissistic and Hephaestus's kids can have autism. Plus, the camp was probably divided on the account of their parents' fights, but now that the Olympians are getting closer or at least fighting less, there's also a lot less infighting among the demigods, since they are no longer expected to hold their parent's grudges.

                    Ody is a bit amused because i think he'd at first see Apollo as merely a god, respectful yet dangerous, but now he starts seeing him for the awkward kid that he is. Meanwhile Argos has not left Percy a lot for days, since that good boy has very much missed the person that cared for him for 20 years.

                    Yesss!!! Touching up on souls because i remember we talked about it before, i think Percy's soul would also incentive it seeing as it's just another proof of Poseidon in him and the soul does not like that. Though i think it would remember the last talk the couple had with him/it and then feel guilty. Ody and Pen, being able to see souls, would immediately clock in that Percy's soul is feeling guilty for something, specifically something related to them. Though with everything else going on i think they'd assume it has to do with the evil people rather than Percy hiding a part of himself again.

                    They're all completely eldrich when they want. I'd imagine being hunters would make something shift in their morality, like i think Artemis and the hunt's behaviour would be similar to a feline, and cats sometimes bring dead animals as gifts. So due to their wild nature, in one occasion everyone just watches a hunter rip a monster apart with her freaking teeth, then when it's over and her face is all bloody from biting chunks off the creature, she just grabs it and trots over to Artemis like a cat gifting it's owner a dead rat.

                    Percy would be so concerned and confused when the couple suddenly break down one day and hug him tightly. They remember the feeling they had when they realised Tel had been reincarnated and didn't remember them, and they don't want to experience it again. Percy would try to comfort his parents as best as he can but the couple refuse to tell him what's wrong in fear that the evil people somehow might've put some failsafe in the delos group so if they're made aware of their memory losing, the memories will just all be lost immediately, like a snap.

                    Everyone tries to take it as much to heart as possible, since they know they're all hypocrites.

                    Space is amazing, I'd imagine his new favourite activity would be looking at the sky, since regardless if it's day or night he'll be able to see the cosmos.

                    I love what you said and honestly i have two interpretations of it; 1) the domains, being alive as they are, want to comfort Apollo and might talk a bit with other domains to create/compose sounds for the universe, since it doesn't actually have sound. That way while he doesn't have his normal vision, he at least has a constant stream of beautiful symphonies accompanied by universal wonders. 2) the universe is very loud, actually, nobody hears it because sound doesn't travel through vacuum. Which would meant that while his eyes enhanced to a point of being able to see beyond other divine entities, with the downside of losing the ability to see the normal light spectrum, his ears enhanced enough for him to be able to pull the sounds *through* vacuum. His powers would literally be dragging the sounds through vacuum and to him so he hears. The implications that Apollo can just ignore the vacuum of space are TERRIFYING.

                    Honestly, I don't think he would've been completely blind since it was still a few years before, but his vision definitely would've been too bad for him to genuinely see his kids. For the sake of comfort, maybe Apollo just took the kids to Delos, since like Apollo the kids also start turning into colors beyond the human spectrum, just at a faster rate, and while that may not give Apollo the actual sight of his kids, it's enough for his to commit their faces to memory.

                    Everyone is happy the scars are gone, though to make sure they still comfort the twins, in case they're actually just hiding the scars and telling them they're not something to be ashamed of. The twins are very confused.

                    Yess. I think while Zeus and Hera would definitely get close again (definitely closer than when they were at their marriage), at the end of the day their current values don't really align with each other, with Zeus still regularly sleeping with married woman and Hera being the goddess of marriage. I think they'd be close, but not close enough to vent to or comfort, just two friends who occasionally hang out together. I do think they'd have a 'bonding session' where it's just Zeus seducing married people so Hera, now also goddess of divorce, snitches to their partners so the partners get someone better. Hera then also grabs Aphrodite to makes sure those people WILL get someone better. Zeus is just vibing, he gets to hang out with his friend and sleep with mortals!

                    Artemis is usually seen as calm and serene due to her moon domain, but most forget that she also has the domain of the hunt, which is one of the most feral domains out there. They balance each other most of the time, but one slips out occasionally. Apollo's domain are very dynamic, so while he isn't nearly as feral as Artemis with her hunt domain, he doesn't have a serene domain to balance himself, so he just goes along with his domains. It causes Artemis much grief.

                    Yess everyone thinks the evil people traumatized the twins so badly they're actually acting like the kids they are. But in reality it's just normal them.

                    The twins take up residence with the rest of the sibling group upon their insistence, but they also don't really want to be alone right now, since Artemis is still freaked out, so they accept. I think they'd still look out for Zeus, because while he's way better now, i think Zeus himself is incredibly naive and easily manipulated; his ego is just so high that it's easy to offend him so barely anyone manages to not accidentally trigger it. But either way everyone knows that while Zeus wouldn't do anything to the twins now, he doesn't have enough of a moral code and understanding of normalcy to tell everyone if he saw someone hurt the twins. Either way, they're all panicking and feeling like failures.

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                    1. I love that!! The domains just want to love and cherish these little silly mortal their gods have but in doing so they make the demigods so much harder. 100%, i think Percy and Annabeth being friends was the first step of the demigod not holding on to their parent's grudges. L:ike everyone so the two of them getting alone and nothing happening and they start to let go of some of that hate between each other because their don't see a point anymore, their parents wouldn't care either way. But the last step was the Olympians getting closers because now they feel encouraged to put aside the pointless fighting instead of it just being ok if they did.

                      Ody remembering that Zeus is Apollo father and is prepared to be the best in law ever to replace Zeus as Apollo's father. Partly out of spite for the god making him between himself and his crew but also because he is general surprised that Zeus hasn't been a bad influence for Apollo. Like the myths speak for themselves when it comes to Zeus cheating habits and he is surprised that Apollo hasn't gotten those genes from Zeus. Ody is less surprised when he find out that Zeus didn't have a hand in rising Apollo. Just Argos ready to fight Mrs. O'Leary for Percy's attention.

                      OOOO, Poseidon wouldn't clock Percy actions as demigod treats because his soul was helping to suppression them before. Not all demigod get the same treats, since Percy didn't show any treats before Poseidon just thought that they all just skipped by Percy, it's something that happens rarely and at this point Percy has proven to be acceptation to the rule like 90% of the time so it would make sense for them to skip Percy.

                      Ody and Pen going out of their way to make sure that Percy can talk to them about anything and reminding him that he was their son and nothing would change that. Percy being touched and confused because this talk seemed like it was out of nowhere.

                      i love that!!! I'm just imagining Artemis sun bathing or just relaxing sleepy out in a open field with no care in the world just like a lazy cat because her she knows that her brother is looking out for her. As long as she is under her brothers light nothing can touch her with. Her hurt often joins her because they too can feel the sun's protection, they are Artemis's people with is enough to gain Apollo's protection.

                      Percy watching that hunter aw stuck and also starts biting monsters. This is where they find out that Percy has venom (I just really love the idea of Percy being poisons and that is part of the reason he can control poisons) I think the venom only grow in after Percy got all his adult teeth and was taught not to bit things so it was left unnoticed until know.

                      They have just reached their limit and really needed that break down. I think the couple would start making a scrap book or putting more effort into one they already start in hopes that have pictures or things as reminds will jump start Percy memories.

                      100% all his free time would be spend staring at the cosmos. There is only so long he will would be able to see it so he doesn't want to waste a second because who knows the next time he would be able to see this. Artemis is usually with him because she isn't going to leave her basally blind brother alone especially when she knows he has a bad habit of turning out the rest of the world when stargazing leaving himself open for attack.

                      Those are what I was going for, either music and art working together to make sounds for the universe or Apollo getting super hearing. I honestly don't know which idea i like better because I love domains that are alive and care for their god and them teaming to make Apollo's world more beautiful is just so cute. But I also love the idea that the universe has it's own privet song that no body else can listen to until Apollo is pushing his senses to their limit to composite for his lack of sight.

                      Ooo, What if Apollo took a group picture for cabin 7 on delos. Like it would be proof to his kids that he cares but it is also a way for Apollo to be able to truly see his kids when he gets his sight fully back. He knows that it might be years before he gets his sight back and that all his kids could be dead by them but he will still have the picture. He will just have to wait to see his kids but he made sure that he would be able to see them one day.

                      They have a system. Zeus gets to be with cheating mortals, Hera gets to spread divorce and healthier marriage, and Aphrodite gets to spread love and watch the drama unfold.

                      Artemis is the first ever feral forest germline but that is all over looked because she is clam. If people stayed around for more than a few minutes they would be able to see the feralness behind her clam. Apollo is just a threader kid.

                      OOOO, what if, whatever Apollo did to force his domains left him with slight memory loss. Like what if he forgot about being close to the sibling group and is confused about why acting clingily and only goes with it because Artemis seems ok with it. It would break the hearts of his sibling for them to think they were back at square one with Apollo. Like he was on good terms with with Mr. D and Hermes before they all got super close so it wouldn't effect them as much but it would absolutely crush Heph, Ares and Athena for all their bonding to be forgotten. I don't think the memory loss would last long, like somewhere between a few days and few weeks before Apollo is back to normal but it would only add to theory of the Delos losing their memoires and they would all live in fear of it happening again.

                      I'm imaging the siblings in a cuddle pile with the twins in the middle both of them laying on top Heph, Hermes and Mr. D on top of the twins, with Athena and Ares on either side of everyone. What ever Apollo did left him cold to the touch which everyone took issue with because he never felt cold before, so Heph is being was a bed and person heater. Everyone wanted the twins hidden so no one could hurt them again so, Hermes and Mr. D laid on top them, acting as blanks and keeping praying eyes way form them. Athena and Ares were one the edge because they would be the first line of defense if anyone tried anything. They are war gods so they were the best fighters amongst the siblings. They would rather fade them let someone harm one of their younger siblings again.

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                      1. Yess I'd imagine in camp there's a lot of subtle pressure to be and behave like their godly parents, to follow their steps and not stray too far from the path, with how there's even cabin stereotypes. The camp has slowly been getting better and now with Ody and Pen in charge they completely dismantle that subtle encouragement in books and just tell the kids to live their own lives.

                        Ody is incredibly surprised upon finding out that most of Zeus' kids are actually rather well-adjusted, mostly because Zeus did not raise them. But yea i think Apollo would grow really fond of Ody, though now that I'm remembering Troy used to be Apollo's favorite city so I'd imagine there was a small period of time where Apollo was a bit distant due to that, but he got over it eventually. Ody is just so ready to parent another kid, especially since this kid is also Hermes' brother.

                        Poseidon thought that at least Percy would be able to fit in better, unaware of the soul shenanigans happening. Plus Percy is generally just an exception to literally everything so Poseidon wouldn't cross it out, seeing as the kid has done stuff he previously thought impossible too. Might as well happen.

                        The couple is just having a bad time™ and trying not to pressure Percy but they're getting worried since their son has seemingly not talked to anyone about it. Percy is just vibing, although confusedly.

                        Artemis is just sunbathing quietly. I think as a goddess she's able to stay still for a rather long time, and doesn't have a pulse or breathing unless she wants to. So maybe someone just finds her and think she's like.. dead. Somehow. They aren't sure if it could happen since Artemis is the goddess of the *moon* and what if the sun did something??? Meanwhile The Hunters are just by the side napping on the grass, curled up like cats.

                        Percy slowly growing deadlier. Ooo maybe since his soul repressed the demigod behaviour and all demigod powers except the basic ones like water control, it actually gave the powers time to develop properly, which is why Percy seems so powerful and has so many abilities. All demigods have all powers, it's just that sometimes the powers aren't developed enough to actually manifest and just stay tucked away, too weak to function at all.

                        A big memory book designed to keep Percy's attention since he has ADHD. The couple is terrified and it reaches a point where Chiron, Sally and Paul all team up to drag them to therapy. Percy is confused.

                        I'd imagine those moments would lead Apollo to be rather close with the more eldrich cosmos gods/primordials. They're all technically related but I'd imagine as higher beings the primordials see past the human light spectrum. In those moments where Apollo basically sees the same as them he hangs out with the more friendly ones since they get him and he needs babysitters when Artemis isn't available.

                        I love how the ideas can function for both fluff and angst. Because the domains caring so much and so genuinely about Apollo is adorable and i think he'd be one of the first few gods to realise the domains are alive. But also the universe doesn't really have a 'song', it has *very loud* noises. The sun is constantly screaming, and if Apollo can now push sound through vacuum, he basically has to deal with a constant stream of screams and horrific sounds with the occasional melody. It'd probably overwhelm him a lot.

                        Aww Apollo just trying to be a good dad even if he doesn't really get to hang out with his kids often due to Zeus' rules. Delos is very happy to meet some of her grandchildren even if they're confused. The kids just have a good time, accepting their father's weird need for constant photo-taking.

                        All three of them thrive on drama at the end of the day. They're all satisfied and when done just sit back and watch the couples argue. Even if Zeus is the one sleeping with the married people he always cheers when the partner leaves them, since he suffered through a very big lashing from Hera after the divorce and realised how horrible it must feel. Aphrodite is just here for the show.

                        They're both theater kids but Apollo is the main character-esque kid and Artemis is the one who grows increasingly dramatic and her speaking reverts to Old English Royalty whenever she's upset. It doesn't happen often but Apollo always sees it.

                        The sibling group is *very* terrified. Once Apollo remembers again he apologises though he can see the group still looks like they need therapy. I think that would give everyone hope and make them think whatever the evil people did isn't permanent, and even if the delos group is losing memories right now they'll all return eventually.

                        Aww they're all incredibly protective of each other. Apollo would quickly go back warmth since he's still the god of the sun. Apollo and Artemis just wake up and cannot see anything because the rest of the group is just covering them so much light doesn't get in. Everyone is scared but silently glad the twins at least don't seem *that* affected anymore.

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                        1. I 100% agree with that, I think in order to run things Chiron put the campers in boxes and reinforced the stereotypes making it even harder for the kids to step out of their parents shadows. He wouldn't mean too but their is only on of him and a lot of kids if the most of a cabin acts a certain way he would just think that it the same for all the kids in the cabin. It would make it harder for the kids that didn't get their parents main domain because they didn't fit in with the cookie cuter shape that Chiron expected to come from their cabin.

                          I think Apollo would have already forgiven Ody for that because he did agree to free Ody during god games. I think if their was any hard feelings Apollo wouldn't have help but now that I'm thinking about it Ody had a prophecy about getting home. What if Apollo only help Ody then because he know it would be pointless not too because of the prophecy. Apollo could still be upset over Tory and keep his distant and Ody could be confused because he knows that Apollo help him get off the island.

                          Someone just goes to check up on Artemis because they were concerned and was meet with a angry Apollo who was upset over someone daring trying to disturb his sisters much needed break. Neither Artemis or the hunt moves a muscle because they Apollo will handle things and just continue enjoying the sun.

                          oo Apollo doing something similar at night. Like he is just star gazing as break from taking care of his many duties or maybe just napping under the night sky knowing that sister wont let anything happen to him.

                          ooo, because of soul shenigans Poseidon's domains had to fight harder to put a claim on Percy making powers actually come from their claim. Like when a domain takes a liking to a demigod it would put a claim on them as a sign of their favor but that doesn't always end up with them getting powers. It just gives them the potential to have those powers. Kind of like a last resort, if a the demigod is truly pushed past their limits but is still fighting they could unlock that hidden potential and gain access to powers of the domain that favored them. It is why sometime demigods find out they had powers after a life and death event, they didn't have those powers until them because they weren't pushed far enough that they need them. Since the domains were fighting harder to put a claim on Percy and he already went though a lot of live and death stuff he just has access to those powers instead of them being locked away for a rainy day.

                          The therapy is was really needed, too much of the couples past trauma was brought to end any other way. Everyone thought the couple would be selfware enough to know when it was needed because they were always dragging other people to therapy but then they realized that the couple wasn't going to go them selfs, so they got dragged.

                          I love that so much. I think the would only make Apollo eldrich standing amongst the other gods more pronounced because he is hanging out the well known eldrich beings. I think they would love him a because he could paint what the comos really looks like and it would be the first time someone did that for them. I also think he should have a nickname alone the lines of baby star because he is much younger than the edrich beings and will never be anything but a baby to them.

                          What if we combined the two ideas, his domains are trying to turn the noise of the universe into a soft song not only to bring joy back to Apollo but to try and protect him from the loudness of everything but it isn't always enough. Some times the domains need a break or the universe makes a unexpected noise making song disappear leaving Apollo is left with the screams that is loud it makes his ears bleed. This lasts his domains are strong enough to dial back the noise and make it into a song again or until they learn to incorporate the unexpected noise into the song.

                          ooo, Cabin seven knowing that their father love of pictures so the ones in school sacrifice some of their school pictures every year to their dad while the year rounds take fake school pictures to sacrifices and Apollo gives them all gifts in return. When they learn why their father loved pictures the cabin 7 kids are in for all kind of emotions.

                          IT would probably be the most terrified anyone of have felt because this isn't something they could fight and it didn't seem like something they could fix either. The sibling don't like that Apollo apologized because besides Artemis no one knows that he did this to himself. They think that someone did this too him and think that he is back to victim blaming. Artemis how knows that Apollo did this accepts the apologize and makes him promes to be more careful making the rest of the sibling sad because they think Artemis is victim blaming but don't know how to react because they saw how much she feel apart earlier. It would deff bring them hope those because they know that what memory loss can be undone, it would kill them for Artemis to forget them but they now know that it wouldn't be forever.

                          OOO, since Apollo is sick/injured from what every he did what if he turns into a younger form and Artemis, Hermes and Mr. D all follow suit. They are the youngest of the siblings and shows now when one of them is sick/injured and everyone is worried and confused and they just reached their limit proof they are a in a child like form. It pulls at the order siblings heart strings because they haven't seen their siblings so young before.

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                          1. Yea Chiron was pretty much the only responsible figure in camp and that took a toll on him after so much time. He wishes he could let them be themselves but he genuinely doesn't have the mental energy or capacity or just time to learn and adapt his teaching methods to every single kid. He can make exceptions when they don't fit the cookie cutter but those by themselves are already incredibly mentally taxing on him. Man desperately needs therapy.

                            I remember reading a fic where that Astyanax was meant to be Apollo's next champion and Apollo was obviously really upset when the baby died. I think that could be used really well to explain this situation, because Apollo logically knew that Ody was just protecting his family and didn't want to kill a newborn, which is why he helped him escape in god games, but now that Apollo is met with the sight of Ody in person it brings back that resentment over killing his champion even if Ody didn't want to do it.

                            Apollo is very angry whenever his sister's nap time is interrupted. The hunt is also protective but they're currently lazing around too so Apollo protects them either.

                            Ooo yea!!! Everyone thinks Apollo and Artemis would be uncomfortable with the night and day respectively because it's the opposite of their domains but it's untrue. They feel safer under the other's watch rather than in their own domain because they feel like they can trust the other more than themselves.

                            Oooo yea Percy would probably be at least glad he actually got a reward for all the stuff he went through. He's happy he didn't go through so much for possibly nothing because now he's more powerful than ever and capable of protecting his loved ones.

                            Ody and Pen were so busy giving everyone therapy and fixing the divine world they didn't stop and consider their own mental state. They realise it in therapy and just quietly accept it.

                            Yesss Apollo is an absolute ray of sunshine either way and is already pretty mentally young, so it just reinforces the nickname. I think the Eldrich beings would love Apollo because due to how old they are it's gotten harder to see the bright side of things, and Apollo just brings it out so easily.

                            OOO Apollo's domains are just desperately trying to hold on and help Apollo through it because they know hearing the cosmos is painful. I'd imagine Apollo would grow weary of hearing because he never knows if he's going to hear a scream or a melody. I think at one point that constantly anxiety of suddenly hearing the cosmos for what they are instead of the melodical illusion from his domains would be so much he just wants to go deaf.

                            The kids get emotional very quickly because they always knew that Apollo tried really hard to be their dad despite Zeus' rules, but the confirmation that it isn't new and Apollo has always been a great dad only stopped by Zeus is enough to make them all cry. The cabin sticks with Apollo for the rest of the day.

                            They would already think the delos group is victim blaming due to the scars from the delos pets, and this would just reinforce that. I think maybe one of the siblings would try to breach the topic and Artemis would just be like 'why wouldn't i blame him? He was being an idiot lol' and the others are just heartbroken.

                            Oooo yea Artemis would automatically turn because they're twins, i think Hermes has always been used to looking younger than Apollo, even if just slightly, and that instincts coupled with the current anxiety just causes him to turn to a form younger than Apollo's current so he has some level of familiarity. I think Mr.D when anxious would first turn middle-age because of the wine domain, then suddenly turn to a kid. I think Mr.D would be really anxious because he's the youngest Olyumpian and this is the most unstable Olympus has been for him i think. The older siblings are just sad and comfort the now-kids. I do think Ody and Pen would have a blast with kid-Hermes and kid-Mr.D

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                            1. Chiron really is just hanging on with a thread after so many years.

                              I really like that. I think in some stories Hector was Apollo's son making Astyanax his grandson so that could add to to everything. Not only did Ody kill his future champion but he also killed his grandson after Apollo last a few of his other kids.

                              The twins always look after each other and each others people. The hunt knows they can relax with Apollo on watch during the day and cabin seven knows that they can sleep peaceful at night because their aunt is watching over them. The twins themselves know that they don't have to be an guard because they have their sibling watching out for them.

                              OOO, everyone pulling straws because they don't want to be the ones to inform the Eldrich being about what they think happened to Apollo. They know that Apollo hangs around them at times and they have heard Artemis teasing Apollo about his nickname.

                              What if it truly gets too much and Apollo just nope out of hearing and deafens himself. He as reached his limit and is so much happy now that he can't hear but Artemis is terrified and drags him to Asclepius to be healed. If her nephew could cure the death then he could bring Apollo's hearing back. But Apollo stops any attempt from working either form just refusing treatment or just using his powers over healing to make sure it wouldn't work. When is sight goes back to normal Apollo lets his hearing get fix because he knows he wouldn't have deal with the screams anymore. Next time he the second he starts to hearing the cosmos he gets rid of his hearing because that worked best. Artemis isn't happy about anything of this but understands that this is probably for the best because she saw first hand how much anxiety he had before. She ties to talk him into exploring different options like median to lesson his anxiety or coming up with different ways to block out the noise without going as far as defeaning himself but he is set in his way because he knows it works and doesn't see the harm because their is no lasting damage. Needless to say the rest of the siblings are horrified and refuse to let Apollo be alone from that point on.

                               

                              They even bring it up to Apollo because they have to tell him whatever happened wasn't his fault but Apollo just tells them that he did something stupid and should have known better. Their hearts hurt so much thinking about what could have driven the twins to this point.

                              I think Mr. D normal would be around 17 - 23 and his time at camp left his anxious enough to look middle-age and now the thing with Apollo was the last step and he joined the twins + Hermes in lookin like a kid.

                              I think the order siblings would be some what grateful that their sibling are in younger forms because they are smaller and it is easier to hug them all at once. It is also easier to hide the twins from danger when they are tiny kids, it might hurt them to seem them so anxious and small but it is easy for them to be hidden away from the world.

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                              1. Chiron desperately needs therapy but even with Ody and Pen around he's still horribly overworked.

                                Ooo yea, Hector is often described as peace-loving and gentle, so Apollo was probably close to him and grieved him greatly when Achilles killed him. Plus, I'm unsure if it happened in Epic, but i know in some stories Hector's wife was there and watched Odysseus throw the baby, so it certainly wouldn't endear him to Apollo. Ody is confused, but he's a smart man and probably knows Troy was Apollo's chosen city, so he has an inkling what the grudge is about even if he doesn't know how personal it truly is. I'm sure he'd feel horrible about it upon finding out because he's always felt guilty over killing Astyanax.

                                Yess I'd imagine due to how close Apollo and Artemis are, cabin seven and the hunters are the few groups that actually act like the cousins they are. Whenever cabin seven gets too overcrowded they have Artemis' permission to use her cabin, and vice-versa (in a time where Apollo didn't have many kids but Artemis took in a lot of hunters).

                                The Eldrich beings already knew about the blindness, since it was what caused Apollo to befriend them all in the first place, but they'd absolutely rage upon finding out the evil people targetted and tortured Apollo. They're all saddened and angry to find out the little sun god went through such horrors. Maybe the Eldrich beings all see outside the human light spectrum, but very few or none at all can hear through the vacuum of space like Apollo (and the ones who do are used to it and have bodies adapted to not be overwhelmed). So when they find out Apollo became deaf they rage because they think it's the evil people's fault.

                                Yea Artemis isn't much fond of the solution, but she knows how hard the cosmos are on her twin from the stories he told, so as long as it's permanent she doesn't mind, much. The rest of the sibling group are all horrified that Apollo is now deaf and mostly blind. Maybe they think due to the experiments of the evil people Apollo is slowly losing his senses and are terrified. they start to constantly ask him about what things feel under his touch or how something tasted like or just generally watching in case Apollo doesn't speak for a while.

                                Everyone is horrified. I'd think Ody and Pen would step in now, because Apollo is their son's bf and they've grown fond of him, plus they have experience with getting wary people to relax due to the whole situation with kidnapping Percy and Gaia. Everyone would just let them, desperately hoping that the couple manages at least a bit of improvement.

                                Mr.D tried so hard to hold on because he felt embarrassed, but now he's mostly fine with it because he gets reassurance. He was probably still anxious from his time at camp and was just really good at hiding it, but now as a kid it's much more obvious and he's properly reassured. Ody and Pen are concerned and worried but otherwise having a great time with kid-Hermes and kid-Mr.D, taking them to parks and stuff. They love their adopted kids.

                                The older siblings are all very protective and generally anxious due to what's been happening in general, so they're glad their siblings are almost pocket-size (if you account for very big pockets....). They do take the time to bond with the kid versions of their siblings, trying to see the good side of the situation.

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                                1. All the old guilt that Ody thought he worked through comes back up because he is forced to interact with some that was negatively impacted by his actions. I think was a way to cope Ody would tell be telling himself that Astyanax wouldn't have had family to look at him because Hector was dead and who knows what happened to his wife. It helped him live through his actions because he wasn't taking a baby away from his family he was just reuniting father and son but than he learns that their was someone that did morn Astyanax and what could have been and that person is part now part of his life.

                                  Cabin 7 people the only people not surprised that the hunt and Percy are friends because the know both groups. Also just everyone at camp thinking that the cabin 7 hates the haters and vise versa because the two groups have a prank way going on. It has been going on for so long that no one really remembers who started it but it wont be stopping anytime soon because at this point it just become tradition/family bonding.

                                  OO none of the Eldritch beings set the record straight about the blindness because they thought it was well known. They aren't sure why other people are bring it up like it was new so they just think that the evil people made it worse some how. Since none of them had to death with the noise thing they 100% think it was the work of the evil and demand their pound of flesh.

                                  Now I'm just picturing a god that looks more Eldritch than humanoid probably with some space theme going on just picking Apollo up and wrapping him up in a blanket and walking off. The Eldritch gods decided that the best thing to do was steal the baby sun god away because the earthly gods clearly failed at keeping their sunshine child safe. Apollo will just chill with the other Comos gods safe in a comfortable room (maybe a cozy blanket fort) where he can. They all take turns hanging out with Apollo and joining the hunt for what was left of the evil people. Apollo wouldn't be too happy because he was forced to separate with the rest of the Delos group leaving them with out the only way to connect Artemis without being over heard. (the hunt has a way to contact Artemis but their is a chance that Hermes will be able to over hear it)

                                  OOO, They end asking Artemis what happened because while they feel bad about bring up bad memories they need to know what could have happened to make a god loss most of their sight and all their hearing. She tries to tell them that the sight thing always happened but isn't believed because everyone thinks that it is the brainwashing talking. She does tell them that it is Apollo's choice to deaf and they think that it is anther victim blaming thing until she brings up that is was a copying mechanism. Everyone know thinks that Apollo deafened himself because he was the god of truth and it hurt to listen to the lies the evil people brainwashed him to thinking where true. Some still think the loss of senses where because of experiment and that Apollo is still in danger of losing his other senses but that is mostly because they don't want to believe the Apollo would harm himself.

                                  They would try so hard to help Apollo but nothing will work until some of the misunderstanding is cleared up and the Delos group knows that their is no big bad controlling everyone. Until them Apollo wont let his walls down around anyone not apart of the Delos group. Apollo might make it look like the help is helping in order to get people drop their guard around him to get more information and it would break everyones heart when their find out that all the progresses that Apollo was making was a lie.

                                  Ody and Pen are determent to gave their kids the best childhood. It doesn't that Hermes and Mr. D are gods, right now they are kid shaped and Ody and Pen are going to make sure they two of them have the best time to make up for their lack of childhood.

                                  OO, Heph making baby carries for himself, Athena, and Ares so they could carry their younger sibling but sill have their hand free. They tried carring the younger sibling in their pockets (the older siblings in the godly height form) but the younger ones didn't like not being able to see what was going on.

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                                  1. Yea Ody would feel really guilty because his weak way of coping with what happened is completely gone now. I think Apollo would come around really quickly though because he has already visisted Astyanax in the underworld and bonded with his grandchild. Still it hits Ody harder than Apollo expected and that's a lead motive that gets Apollo to get over it and comfort Ody.

                                    Cabin 7 and the hunters didn't mean to hide their friendship but when they found out they just started to purposely leaning into it for the fun of it. They adore pretending to hate each other when the hunters are at camp and everyone else just has to watch the twins get along splendidly as their kids fight each other in the background.

                                    The Eldrich beings have no concept of morality and are fully willing to throw the evil people's souls into Tartarus. They hate the fact that Apollo didn't reach out for help since as non-earth gods their reach is really far. Maybe they think the evil people brainwashed Apollo into thinking they aren't friends which is why not only did Apollo not reach out while in their control, he still didn't reach out after being freed and they had to find out through other people. They're determined to convince Apollo they're all friends and protect him which is why they kidnap him. It's their form of bonding. They do tell everyone else though so the camp and the sibling group doesn't worry. Oo yess the hunters can talk to Artemis but they have to be really sneaky with their words and use subtle context and inner references. Hermes sometimes accidentally listens in, his domains sense his anxiety and fear that the delos group isn't safe and try to help him by making him listen. Hermes just thinks that they're references to their time in the evil people's hold and gets more worried. The domains are not happy that their plan didn't work.

                                    They just blame everything on victim blaming at this point because it's what makes the most sense in the context they think happened. Yea they all hate the idea of their sunshine boy hurting himself because his domains were struggling against the brainwashing.

                                    Yea Apollo is very wary so whenever they try to genuinely help him by asking him less subtle questions since he's the god of truth and can't exactly lie, he just skirts his way of them because he thinks the evil god is trying to get info on him. When he finds out there's no evil god he's confused but relaxes. Everyone is happy that Apollo isn't avoiding the questions anymore but quickly grows horrified because Apollo doesn't give the context to his answers (thinking the others already know) and it just makes the situation look worse. With how casual he's about it they think they never really succeed in deprogramming Apollo from the brainwashing and are heartbroken.

                                    The gods all had bad childhoods and the couple is determined to at least give Mr.D and Hermes the ability to think well about some of their younger moments.

                                    Heph makes the wildest children toys imaginable and it all starts with the baby carries. The kiddies are loving this because for once they get to be childish and not be judged for it.

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                                    1. I think talking to Apollo would help Ody really start healing because he could have someone who has every right to hate him tell him that they were ok. Apollo could explain that the moment Zeus got involved Ody didn't have a choice it was either Astyanax or Ithaca, that any either path got wiped out the second Zeus started to melt. Apollo could also help remind Ody that death wasn't the end and he did get a chance to bond with his grandchild even after everything.

                                      It would be really funny if the hunters went out of their way to defend Apollo's honor and Cabin 7 doing the same to Artemis. So the camp watches as the hunters talk well about Apollo only to turn around and trash talk Cabin 7 and Cabin 7 doing the exact same thing. Everyone is extremely confused on what started the beef between the two groups, while the two group love the confused looks sent their way.

                                      OOO, the Eldrich beings going out of their way to remind Apollo that they are friends leading some weirdness. Like taking him on trips to go sight seeing and he end up meeting his first alien and once that door is open he gets to explore alien world with one of them acting as his babysitter to make sure he doesn't accidently get in trouble. Giving gifts that are a little over the top, like a blanket made out of star dust or maybe even one of the infinity stones because it was pretty space rock that had cool vibes (they are on a different power scale so the infinity stones would just be a cool rock to them) Maybe Apollo makes a comment about missing Percy or that he wished he could show this to Percy and the Eldrich beings beings are like no proble, and before Apollo could stop them they grabed Percy so Apollo wouldn't be missing his bf.

                                      Hermes domains see that listening in is just making their god stressed so they stop letting him listen in but that makes Hermes even more stressed because he thinks the hunters fond a way around him and is worried about them disappearing off the map again. The domains can't win and just let Hermes listen in because it seem like the best option. They just want their god to be happy but nothing they are doing is working.

                                      Maybe Heph makes Apollo noise canceling headphones so that Apollo could turn his hearing off without being deaf. Apollo puts them on and heal his ears to try them out but they aren't enough, it does muffle the universe somewhat but not nearly enough for it to be a solution. Everyone can tell that didn't work by Apollo pained face but they were all too slow to stop Apollo from deafening himself again. That sight of Apollo harming himself will revisit their nightmares for years to come. They now think that Apollo will stay deaf until the brainwashing goes away because his truth domain will continue to give him issued until he no longer believes the lies he was told. (when everything is over Heph will team up with the comos being that can hear the void to make a par of headphone that can block out that range of sound for Apollo)

                                      It is even worse because they know that everything that Apollo is saying is true because he can't lie.

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        2. ( didn't acutely men to send when I did, I looked away for a few minutes and my cat was playing with my mouse and managed to send the comment no idea how he managed to do that)

          100% I can the hunt + Percy getting super uncomfy and just leaves camp in the middle of the night to get some time way form everyone. Percy might have meant to show back up by day time to avoid worrying his parents but last track of time since he was messing around with the hunt leading everyone to worry because the Delos group is missing again.

          Hydra thought they could do it, and maybe could have caught a lesser known demigod but then all this happened and they lost so badly.

          I kind of want the avengers + Thor to run into the twins just for Thor to be cryptic and do things that they recognize as Thor showing respect to the twins but also treating the twins like kids and when asked Thor just says something about respecting your elders and when question about Thor also treating the twins like kids Thor gives a little more explaintion and says that the twins were born way before him making them his elders but they are still younger them him and everyone is supper confused and diced not quest it more.

          100% Hydra becomes a tail for the youngers not to take mortal lightly and to remind them that some mortals can do damage but whatever damage a mortal can do to a young god, the rest of the family will deal out 100x fold.

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          1. (you're good 👍 i know how sneaky and surprisingly able cats are aha)

            Yesss maybe to keep them from worrying one of them wrote a short letter that's basically 'felt uncomfy! Went back to our old place! We'll come back see you soon xo'. Everyone immediately goes into a panic thinking Percy + the Hunt went back to the evil people. They try tracking down but they went to delos so they can't exactly track down.

            Yess Hydra had some base plan, since they knew they couldn't take the divine world head-on, but this whole thing blew up and they don't even have enough time to understand what's happening. They just think the divine world somehow found out about their plan and decided to destroy them before they even properly started it.

            Everyone is constantly confused around Thor. Thor doesn't realise that the others don't know the twins are gods, so for him this makes perfect sense. The twins were born before Thor but they have the mental age of someone younger than Thor. He doesn't understand mortal ages don't work like that.

            Yess!!! I'd imagine that tale would actually strengthen the pantheons in terms of unity. They took out the hydra bases in their territories and found hydra's plans for certain young gods, which caused the whole pantheon to be extremely protective over those gods, especially since they've already seen files about how cruel Hydra is. The younger gods are briefly scared but this strengthens everyone's relationship because gods themselves suck at showing they care, but because they're so worried it's plenty obvious now. It's reassuring for the younger gods and gets them to open up, which in turn gets the rest of the gods to open up. Anyways so Hydra ended up being a good thing !! The tale becomes rather famous and is passed down for centuries.

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            1. Everyone feeling terribly because they overstepped some how and pushed the group back to the evil people. OOOO, everyone trying to keep the fact that Percy + the hunt left from the twins because they don't want to lose them to the evil people as well. So they are trying to track them down with trying not to draw action to the search to avoid the twins finding out. They know that Apollo would follow Percy anywhere and that Artemis would do anything for her hunt.

              Hydra was both surprised and not surprised at the same time. Like it made senses that the divine world would find out, they are gods after all, but at the some time they were so sure that they were being sneaky and in gernal that they were better than everyone else.

              Everyone already decided that they were better off not questioning Thor but man do some of them really want to shake answers out of the god. Thor head someone say that age is just a number and thought that mortal ages also worked weird on occasion.

              I kind of want the Avengers to watch over the Delos just for the fun of it. Like everyone can tell the Delos group is getting a little strew crazy decide to send them somewhere to avoid them wandering off again, they pick somewhere close by so they could still keep on eye on them and Thor volunteered himself and the Avengers. Everyone thinks it is a perfect idea because the group would still be in New York, their would be a god to look after them, the Avengers have delt with Hydra before, and the novelty of everything should keep the group more or less entertained.

              100%, it kind of feels like most pantheons have a sink or swim mentally and I think Hydra would break that, bring everyone together by giving them a reason to watch out for each other. Everyone would be happy that the greeks took one for the team and keep sending them gifts to make up for their sacrifice

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              1. The twins are insanely confused when suddenly they're not allowed in camp, or in Sally's flat, or in Ody and Pen's house. They're immediately suspicious. Everyone would immediately breath a sigh of relief when Percy and The Hunt come back two or three days later, with Percy apologising for losing track of time. At this point Ody and Pen are both disgusted that the evil people twisted their son's mind so much, but also incredibly glad that Percy still comes back to them. They hate this because it reminds them of how Tel was after Ody came back, since he was so used to the suitors he was confused when various messed up activities stopped happening, since he thought it was normal. The couple feels horrible that their son is going through this again.

                Hydra constantly thinks they're better than everyone else, and at this point they don't even have much time to be surprised or try to coordinate themselves, since they're all taken down. The Avengers then have to deal with hundreds of Hydra victims that were suddenly freed.

                Thor takes everything too seriously and he doesn't understand how aging works. Some of them try to get answers but they just get more confused since Thor doesn't mention the twins are gods, seeing as he thinks everyone knows. Apollo was literally glowing.

                The Avengers suddenly realise taking care of a group of ADHD child soldiers is not actually easy. They're horrified about the casual tales the group drops into conversation, since the Delos group thinks these guys know about all of the divine world so it's okay to tell them unfiltered.

                They think the Greeks suffered but really it was just a big misunderstanding. They don't tell the rest of the world though since they don't want the gifts to end. i think Thor would be oblivious to it, and then just come back to find the rest of his pantheon is weirdly protective over him.

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                1. just the twins wondering if whatever was happening in Olympus has spread to camp or the people connected to camp and they start comparing notes with the Delos group. The couple were are having the worst time, their past trama is getting brought up with their worry about their kid.

                  100%, Hydra is gone once and for and the Avengers are swapped helping the victims. The are so busy that when Thor asks/tells them about the Delos group moving in they missed it and were jump scared by the group of ADHD child solders.

                  Just Bucky hearing some of the stuff the Delos group has been saying and for the first time ever thinks he might have gotten off lightly by being the winter solder. Because ya it sucked but he didn't go though whatever those kids did that left them acting more like wild animals than humans teenagers. OOO, the Avengers doing blood test to try and see if they can undo some of the experiments done one the Delos group (they either got the run done from someone, or got the conculon one their own because hrdya paired with seeing Percy glow) and are just horrified to see their DNA is so corrupted by whatever they have gone though that it doesn't even read as DNA any more.

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                  1. The Delos group starts having secret, weekly meetings to try and search myths for anyone powerful enough to be able to do this, and try to find some change in the world that might indicate to a new power rising. The others don't notice the secret meetings at first but when they do they're immediately concerned.

                    Oooo Ody and Pen are just having a bad time, because they know the suitors were Tel's worst trauma and fear and now it feels like their baby is going through it all over again, and they're powerless to stop. Maybe one time the hunt and Percy sneak out again, and because the hunt's so many people, to disguise themselves they just sorta... Ask one of the twins to genderbend them. The couple go check on Percy while he's sneaking out the garden and into the road, and while they know Percy well enough to see through his disguise, they very much do not know the hunt so well. So Ody and Pen are just looking out the window, watching their baby boy run away with a group of buff men, and immediately panic because it is TOO SIMILAR to some situations they saw with Tel and the suitors.

                    The avengers babysat the group in the hopes of peace because they're all spent from dealing with traumatized victims, only to find out that these kids are MORE traumatized than the victims !!

                    I don't remember if it's fanon or canon, but either way i remember seeing something about how since gods don't have DNA, the demigods just have half DNA, and the other half is just *nothing*. They are so confused and scared because the DNA half looks perfectly normal and fine why is half of it gone!? Yea Bucky didn't think he'd ever come to a moment where he's glad for what he went through with hydra, because it's definitely less than what the kids went through. Also i remember a video of a cat biting cardboard and now I'm just imagining that if Apollo's animalistic behavior leans towards canine, Artemis's leans towards feline. So the avengers just watch as the hunters bite into cardboard and paper and sit on boxes and knock things off shelves and--- The avengers are horrified except for Tony, i think he'd like that level of chaos, impressed even.

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                    1. ooo, someone over hearing one the secret meeting and think that the Delos groups is just waiting for some kind of signal from the evil people. They are worried because they know they didn't caught
                      all of the evil people because the ones that the group has named has yet to be caught (all the delos pets). They think that they might have to fight the Delos group to avoid whatever world changing thing the evil people have planned.

                      The couple is really just getting hit in the face with past trauma. I think they would look the people they Percy leave with and are scarid when they can't find anything. Like them thinking the random buffy people are part of the evil people and hate how close they got to camp without anyone noticing.

                      The avengers really had no idea what they were getting into. Thor would be no help because he would be trying to learn about the group culture and the avengers wouldn't have the heart to tell Thor that this is trauma respons not some kind of earth culture that he is missing out on.

                      Either way I love that idea. Apollo letting them take some of his blood for the lols and being genuinely curious on what the mortals would find if they ran test on it. Either the mist covers up the fact that his blood is gold or people think that his blood just got replaced with some kind of gold liquid. Either way they are wondering how Apollo is alive since his blood doesn't have any DNA.

                      The chaos of avengers trying to herde cat like teenagers would be amazing. Tony would be impressed but hate the fact that he is one of the people that has to deal with the chaos. OOO, the group using the vents to get around and in the chaos of everything the avengers forget about the exact number of people they are supposed to be babysitting. Everyone think their is a different number of kids and no one can agree on how many teenagers they started off with and someone is convinced that they gained two teenagers while someone is convinced they lost a few. Demigods can't use tech because of monsters but what if doesn't work well for them anyway, so all of Tony's tech that could be used to keep track of the kids is just buggy and only adds to the confusion.

                      Ooo, The hunters and Percy have having a competition on how could get into the weirdest places. The hunt have the cat thing where they can fit in places they really shouldn't and Percy has weird flexibility because he has the ocean in blood. The ocean doesn't like to be restrained, so he can mover in ways he really shouldn't. It turns into a game of hide and seek and the avengers can't rule out any place because they can't be sure that the kids didn't some how end up their.

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                      1. OOOOO but that has so much potential!!! Percy's fatal flaw is loyalty ofc he wouldn't fight his family and friends, but he's confused and scared over *why* they're being like this. The delos group thinks some big bad is rising and has taken over camp and Olympus, and maybe upon seeing the regret in everyone's faces the group thinks the big bad is forcing them to fight them (delos group). They're immediately on guard, and i think if they come to that conclusion they would actually try to leave, believing it's no longer safe for them, and vowing to defeat this evil that's practically toying with their loved ones (or so they think).

                        Ody and Pen are terrified that nobody can figure out who these people are. They're so scared because their child just went along with them, and the couple don't even know if it was willingly or not. Eventually Percy returns after a couple hours and is confused when Ody and Pen hug him tightly and refuse to let him leave their sight for days. Even afterwards they watch over Percy much more, because although they don't want to directly confront Percy over what happened, they're definitely not letting Percy leave with those people again.

                        Thor is just insistent on learning about every possible culture and half the time the things he learned about aren't even cultures. The delos group realised this and at this point are just messing with him. They're going full feral, eldrich, you name it, and Thor just accepts it.

                        They just end up thinking Apollo's DNA is so corrupt it messes up the machine when tested. I'd imagine they would think Artemis and Apollo to be more experimented on than the others, because although I'm not sure it fits Hydra's vibe to be weirdly serious about names, and in the avengers' perspective Hydra named those two after Gods, which means they definitely had plans for the twins.

                        Oooo everyone is just confused, meanwhile the delos group is loving this. Oo okay but. Peter comes along. I'd imagine Peter and Percy would be absolute best friends, both internalised this big responsibility and need to act for the sake of others and both are feral and animalistic yet had to hide it (the spider probably changed Peter's instincts and behaviour too). The two are also sassy and hellbent on chaos so. The avengers are horrified when no only the chaos spreads but Peter starts behaving like some spider because now he feels comfortable showing that side of himself.

                        Cats are always jokingly called liquid and I'd imagine as child of the sea Percy also has liquid-properties, so all of the kids are constantly surprising the avengers. They start to think that Hydra messed with their bones or something to let them be more fluid and get into places they shouldn't be able to because there is no way that flexibility is natural.

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                        1. OOOO, the Delos does try to leave because they think they need space to gather more information in order to free everyone from the new big bad but it doesn't go smoothly. Everyone could tell that the Delos group was on guard and started to do nightly patrols just in case. They were their to make sure that the evil people weren't around and to make sure that they would have some warning if the Delos group decided to book it.

                          I'm thinking that about half the hunt and only one of the twins were able to leave. either they were over whelmed because they weren't expecting this much push back on leaving or they chose to stay behind and act as spies to keep the others in the loop. The twins have their twin thing going on so they could keep tabs on each other from any where in the world and pass information to each other. The other were needed to help gather information for the twins to exchange. I think that Percy was originally meant to be in the group that left because being of his fatal flaw but his hesitant to fight his family made him get caught. Because Percy was caught Apollo was the one to stay behind.

                          Have the Delos group split up makes everyone worried because before this they always stayed together. They don't like any of this and start looking harder for evil people movement because something big must be happening for the group to leave and split up.

                          100%, it might not completely fit the Hydra's naming vibe but the fact that they are named after gods is enough. The avengers know that the twins had more stuff done to them because of their names and extra corrupted DNA.

                          I think Peter should be the only one to know about the greek gods because 1) he isn't part of the avengers so no one would expect him to already know 2) he joins in on the chaos so they will share anyone information needed to add to chaos. They are having the best time, I think it would do wonders for both Percy and Peter to meet someone so similar to themself.

                          Just people doing daily checks on the kids to make sure they didn't hurt themselves by being extra bendey and they think their is something wrong with their equment when it shows that their bones are normal.

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                          1. Everyone is getting increasingly anxious and nervous including the Delos group and it's so funny to remember this is actually because of nothing but miscommunication. Everyone in camp is getting scared and sad because they thought they were doing a good job breaking the brainwashing but now they have to possibly fight their heroes.

                            Ooo yea. I think despite all of this they're not truly upset because they think the camp is either brainwashed by a big bad, or unable to not follow what the big bad says. Ody and Pen would be glad that even if Percy is still trying to leave, he at least is still extremely loyal to them to hesitate. Ody really did NOT want to actually fight his baby. And yea no way Apollo is leaving his bf alone in a possibly hostile environment. The two + part of the hunt that stayed just sorta huddle together. I think they'd be noticeable colder and meaner to everyone now because even if it isn't really their fault they're being controlled by the big bad, the group is still very frustrated and anxious about the situation.

                            Yeaa the delos group really only split whenever Apollo or Artemis had to go to Olympus, and nobody has EVER seen The Hunt split before. Everyone is now afraid and anxious for the ones that left because they all think the group is doing this on the evil people's orders.

                            Yes!! Hydra might not really care about names but naming someone after a god is pretty significant either way. The avengers would believe it because as gods the twins are naturally more powerful and eldrich than Percy and the Hunt.

                            Peter definitely deserves to know. Maybe the spider bite gave him clear-sight and he just didn't see any monsters until now which is why he didn't know. I'm just imagining it as something silly like he walks in on Percy yelling at one of the Furies for a reason or another, and is just extremely confused because he doesn't know what it is. Percy is mildly surprised and just shrugs and explains everything to him. Peter also takes it well. Both of them have been through so much their reactions are just 'might as well happen'.

                            The kids start having a day dedicated to who can be the most flexible and the avengers are extremely scared and concerned over the poses and positions that are performed in those days.

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                            1. Everything is falling about and it is all a miscomputation nothing bad is actually happening. It just proves to show how important clear communication is. Everyone at camp feeling guilty because they were too slow in breaking the brainwashing or because they didn't do a good enough job getting ride of the evil people giving them a chance to call the Delos back.

                              Ture, no one is truly upset with anyone because everyone thinks that brainwashing is involved and can't help their actions. Percy hesitating would gave everyone hope because it is prove that he is completely gone yet and if he can be saved that everyone else could be saved too.

                              Lines have been drawn in the sand, what is left of the Delos group are taking comfort in each other because this is stressful and they have to make sure one of them doesn't fall victim to big bad controlling everyone else.

                              Apollo and Artemis haven't been apart all since they got back, they are always either on Olympus with each other or at camp so having them spilt up is almost worse then see in the hunt spilt up.

                              OO, so Apollo vision is still recovering for the two big prophecies and all the smaller one right. What if they siblings didn't find out about that until after they got back from Delos and they think Apollo's sight issues is because of the people. They don't believe the twins when they try to say that is was normal, because surely at lest one of them would have known if Apollo went blind in the past. Mr. D was always following Apollo around like a lost duckling and Hermes and Apollo caused chaos together quite often, surely one of them would have noticed if this happened before. They are happy that Apollo is the twin that stayed behind because he would have been in more danger because is lack of sight but then the feel guilty for feeling that way because Artemis is still out their someone in danger.

                              OO the avengers question if Apollo and Artemis are actully twins or if they were just part of the some experiment because how different they are puls they over heard one of their argurments about who was older and learned that Artemis was nine days older than Apollo. They bring it up because you can't be twins if Artemis was born ninde days before Apollo and both of them just get supper offeneded over it.

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                              1. They try anyways in a desperate attempt to fix things, but now what remains of the Delos group at camp is very cold to them because the group doesn't want to accidentally be brainwashed into joining the evil god they think is controlling the camp.

                                Yea everyone is just feeling sad and bad and guilty. Percy is a beacon of hope but even so they know it's only because Percy's fatal flaw is loyalty, so it'd be pretty hard for the evil people to take away a fundamental part of him, so they aren't sure they can help the others.

                                They're all scared. I'd imagine they'd all huddle up together in the cabin for the hunters. Apollo doesn't want to be in his cabin because he doesn't want to occupy space when it's already so crowded, and Percy just doesn't feel safe sleeping alone in a possibly hostile situation. Plus the cabin is technically Artemis' so they know the other gods won't interfere.

                                Everyone is just trying to see the positive side of things and taking a silver of comfort out of the fact that Apollo and Percy remained together, because they know the two would only split up in extreme situations.

                                Oooo yesss Apollo is confused and wary. Maybe he's usually very composed even with his lack of sight and learned to move around so easily it looks like he can see, but now with the stress and anxiety of the situation he stumbles more often because he's more stuck in his own head, making his blindness more noticeable. Everyone is immediately worried, especially the sibling group and Ody and Pen. Whenever Apollo hangs around there's always someone with him, at camp it's one of his kids, at Olympus it's one of his siblings, and in the mortal realm it's either Ody or Pen. He's growing tired of the constant vigilance and acting like he's frail. The others just think he's refusing to admit he needs help due to victim-blaming.

                                They argue that they're twins because they came from the same womb and grew in it together, and the avengers are then extremely horrified that Hydra did something that would lead to a woman being in labour for 9 days. They think it's why they've never met their mother (because the twins take the appearance of children, the avengers expected some kind of caretaker with them), that maybe the woman passed away from such an intense procedure.

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                                1. OOO, everyone focusing on getting Percy free from the brainwashing because they know they have a chance do to his fatal flaw. They all hope that after they free Percy, he could help them free the others. They might be questioning their able to save the others but they wont give up hope until the exhausted all their option.

                                  What is left of the Delos group sees that everyone's force has shifted to Percy and they think he is being targeted because of his fatal flaw. They think that the big bad saw Percy hesitates to fact as a sign that he is the week link and would be easiest to control. They make sure that Percy is never alone so their is no chance of Percy being dragged off to be brainwashed.

                                  Cabin seven is gutted because their dad is choosing not to stay with them in his own cabin.

                                  Oooo, Apollo having a blow up because their is only so much stress one person can take and everyone acting like he needs help pushes him over the edge. He feels bad about it after words because he knows they are just worried. The others feel bad when the realized how over baring they were, they know that you aren't supposed to force help on people but they just couldn't stand around and do nothing. They thought Apollo needed the help but would never ask for it because of the victim blaming but they now realized that they might have made things worse. The think that them being overbaring will make Apollo even more hesiten to ask for help in the furture.

                                  The avengers now think that the twins were born and raised inside hydra and make mark down any weirdness from the twins to that. They also made a list similar to Steve's to expose everyone to the world outside hyrda

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                                  1. Yea i think it would overwhelm Percy a lot because he got really used to laying low. In his childhood due to smelly Gabe and through his quests due to the dangers, he's just not happy with attention. He just got the camp to stop treating him like a god due to the great prophecies and now everyone is suddenly paying attention to him, it creeps him out.

                                    Yea Apollo just uses the excuse of love to always be with Percy, and when he can't there's always at least two hunters around. The camp is confused and a bit fearful over why the group is isolating themselves.

                                    Cabin 7 spends most of the days bonding with Apollo anyways but it's still not enough. They desperately try to convince Apollo to at least sleep over for a few nights. Apollo just thinks his kids are being clingy because it's not often they get to hang out.

                                    Yea everyone is really stressed and there's so much anxiety, things are going to blow up eventually. They back off after and say sorry, but they're still at Apollo's beck and call since they're still worried about his lack of sight.

                                    I love that. The group would probably genuinely love those trips of sorts. Apollo and Artemis don't hang out in the mortal world often, The Hunters (most of them) are from older times, and Percy never really strayed far from New York due to his mom's fear of monsters. They're genuinely adoring getting to explore the world with protection, so they don't need to watch out for monsters since they think the avengers know about the divine.

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                                    1. 100% he isn't having a good time because of already being stress over the new big bad controlling everyone he is the center of attention making everything 10 times worse. Maybe Percy gets so tired of the attention he just drags Apollo to the lake and the two of them spend hours under the water just decompressing and taking a bit of time away from everything to de stress. Apollo doesn't need to breath so he doesn't have to worry about keeping an air bubble. Maybe when he is calmer Percy offers to take the hunters underwater so they could have a chance to destress as well.

                                      ooo, Cabin 7 trying to subtly use their healing powers to find out what is wrong with their father but no one of them are having any luck and they feel bad about not being able to find anything.

                                      Just cabin finally conniving Apollo to spend the night in their cabin and he just falls asleep under a pile of all his children.

                                      If times where different Apollo might have made a few jokes about everyone being at his beck and call but he isn't is the mood.

                                      The trips would be the one time that the group doesn't cause chaos on purpose. They love the trips and know that their is a chance of them not being able to do this kind of thing if they end badly so they are on their best behavior and the avengers a concerned that they messed up some how because the group isn't acting like normal but they aren't too worrid about it because the kids seem to be enjoying themselves and check the weirdness up to anxiety about interacting with the out side world

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